[Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 3

amanuel amanuel amanuel1us at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 9 09:20:49 PST 2008



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Today's Topics:

  1. DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation (larry.howlett)
  2. eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  3. eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  4. eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  5. Re: DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation (Karen Walkerman)
  6. Re: eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Brian Davis)
  7. Re: eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  8. GRN Boulder (Meagan Forney)
  9. EQuest for EPAct (Duke Graham)
  10. EPACT approved simulation software versions (Paul Riemer)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:43:30 -0600
From: "larry.howlett" <larry.howlett at htmdengineering.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation
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I am trying to model Demand Controlled Ventilation.    Although I know that
reducing the ventilation when a dining room is empty will save utility
costs,  My results keep showing that this addition will cause higher
utility costs.    Am I missing something when setting up the HVAC  system?




Larry Howlett, P.E.

HTMD Engineering

815-751-3741



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:32:16 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
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Hi All,

Does anyone know how to get the eQuest Refrigeration version to output
hourly reports?  The hourly reports indicate that hourly reports should be
output, but they aren't, besides that I need them in *.csv format to be
really useful anyway, and there's no "Output Hourly Results" option under
the "File" tab.

While I have your attention: any suggestions for modeling refrigeration
systems that circulate a chilled fluid instead of a refrigerant?

Thanks for your help,

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Karen
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:36:24 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
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ok, so figured that one out.  You open the "Hourly Data2_01.dat" file...
does anyone know how to make it pretty easily so I don't have 3 sets of
data, one on top of the other...

Thanks,

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Karen
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:42:06 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
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one more question...

why can't I get any hourly info on compressors, condensers, refrigeration
systems, refrigeration circuits, etc???  How am I going to trouble-shoot?

Thanks again,

--
Karen
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:59:07 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation
To: larry.howlett at htmdengineering.com
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
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one trick with eQuest, is that if you specify fan controls as "variable" or
"cycling", is that the fans don't supply the required ventilation air, if,
for example the space requires only 15% to condition it (and 30% ventilation
air).  If I have cycling or variable control fans, I set my fan controls to
"variable" and set the minimum supply ratio equal to my outdoor air ratio.
This then gives a pretty accurate representation of a system that cycles
fans on and off (use the right fan curve to approx cycling), or of a
variable speed system (again, appropriate fan curve), but has constant
ventilation air.

If you don't do this, what happens when you turn on the DCV, is that the
system is now required to provide ventilation air, so your building may now
be getting MORE than it was before, although this obviously won't happen in
real life.

The other (less likely) thing that could be happening, is that if you have
not updated your occupancy schedules from the wizard, is that your occupancy
schedule for this space is not appropriate for a dining room, but is
averaged with all other occupancy types.

Good luck,

--
karen


On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM, larry.howlett <
larry.howlett at htmdengineering.com> wrote:

>  I am trying to model Demand Controlled Ventilation.    Although I know
> that reducing the ventilation when a dining room is empty will save utility
> costs,  My results keep showing that this addition will cause higher
> utility costs.    Am I missing something when setting up the HVAC  system?
>
>
>
>
> Larry Howlett, P.E.
>
> *HTMD Engineering*
>
> 815-751-3741
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:38:49 -0500
From: Brian Davis <BDavis at dwyer.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
To: Karen Walkerman <kwalkerman at gmail.com>,
    "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org"
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Karen,

I have found that you can, however those options do not show up at first.  When you go to create a new hourly block, select "GLOBAL"  as the variable type then use the default "CLEARNESS NUMBER" as the variable list.  These really don't matter as you will be changing them later.  Once done, go back into the block, now under viable type, there are many more options, all of which you are looking for below.

Not sure why you cannot select them from the start, but they are there.

Brian

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Karen Walkerman
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:42 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports

one more question...

why can't I get any hourly info on compressors, condensers, refrigeration systems, refrigeration circuits, etc???  How am I going to trouble-shoot?

Thanks again,

--
Karen
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:47:55 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
To: "Brian Davis" <BDavis at dwyer.com>
Cc: "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org"
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Brian,

Thanks for your response.  Here's the deal, when I'm in the "Hourly Results
Selection" menu, I can select "Refrigeration Fixture" or one of the others
as a variable type, however, when I pick a specific fixture (or compressor,
or whatever), there are no variables listed for printing!  I am using
version 3.61, if that makes any difference.



Thanks again,

--
Karen

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Brian Davis <BDavis at dwyer.com> wrote:

>  Karen,
>
>
>
> I have found that you can, however those options do not show up at first.
> When you go to create a new hourly block, select "GLOBAL"  as the variable
> type then use the default "CLEARNESS NUMBER" as the variable list.  These
> really don't matter as you will be changing them later.  Once done, go back
> into the block, now under viable type, there are many more options, all of
> which you are looking for below.
>
>
>
> Not sure why you cannot select them from the start, but they are there.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Karen Walkerman
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:42 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
>
>
>
> one more question...
>
> why can't I get any hourly info on compressors, condensers, refrigeration
> systems, refrigeration circuits, etc???  How am I going to trouble-shoot?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> --
> Karen
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:56:45 -0700
From: "Meagan Forney" <mforney at grnboulder.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] GRN Boulder
To: "'Gaurav Mehta'" <gauravm at rushingco.com>,
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Hello Guarav, 

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Commissioning professionals.



I've been told you are knowledgeable in energy modeling and building
analysis.

I'd love to connect and learn a bit more about your skills. I'd also like to
hear about how I might be of aid in your career growth. 



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alerting you to growth opportunities that would fit your career goals. Would
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:22:56 -0800
From: "Duke Graham" <duke at gaiadevelopment.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] EQuest for EPAct
To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
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Hello,

I've seen this question posed here before, but I was wondering if there is
any new information.

Is there any progress on eQuest (and the DOE 2.2 engine) being approved for
use with the EPAct commercial building tax deductions?

Since the economic stimulus package effectively extended the incentives, I
was wondering if any "insiders" who subscribe to this list know anything.

I don't want to have to abandon eQuest for an approved program if I don't
have to.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Duke



Gaia New 4-29-08



Duke Graham, LEEDR AP

Gaia Development LLC

4040 Del Rey Ave., Suite 12

Marina del Rey, CA 90292

p. 310.591.8172

f.  310.827.1702

www.gaiadevelopment.com



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:36:56 -0600
From: Paul Riemer <Paul.Riemer at dunhameng.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] EPACT approved simulation software versions
To: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org" <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>,
    "'equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org'"
    <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
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Based on a quick review of the following simulation software packages web sites, none of their current versions are on The List<http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/qualified_software.html> under either time frame:
- Carrier HAP<http://www.commercial.carrier.com/commercial/hvac/general/0,,CLI1_DIV12_ETI11936,00.html>
- DOE-2.2<http://doe2.com/DOE2/#doe22> (not on the list period unless you count Green Building Studio)
- EnergyGauge Summit<http://securedb.fsec.ucf.edu/operation/press_display?pressid=2250>
- EnergyPlus<http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/cfm/reg_form.cfm>
- eQUEST<http://doe2.com/equest/index.html> (not on the list period unless you count DOE-2.2 through Green Building Studio and then you are in an even bigger 'version' swamp)
- Green Building Studio<http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=11649086> (their website says yes but the list says no)
- Trane Trace 700<http://www.trane.com/Commercial/DNA/View.aspx?i=1136>

Granted there has been a recent batch of releases, but this was just so fascinating that I had to share.





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Today's Topics:

  1. Heat exchanger module (Eric Youngson)
  2. Re: Heat exchanger module (Eric Youngson)
  3. Re: Heat exchanger module (Karen Walkerman)
  4. eQUEST building skin effects in cooling but not    heating
      (Brian Davis)
  5. Re: eQUEST building skin effects in cooling but    notheating
      (Gary.Schrader at tac.com)
  6. Under heating (Patrick Darby)
  7. Re: eQUEST building skin effects in cooling but    notheating
      (Karen Walkerman)
  8. Re: Under heating (Karen Walkerman)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:35:46 -0700
From: "Eric Youngson" <eyoungson at rmi.org>
Subject: [Equest-users] Heat exchanger module
To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Message-ID: <3C47478A1995BF40895EC7AA3B876BC60290D7 at EX007.RMI.local>
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equest-users,

                                I am trying to connect two water loops
in order to recover heat with a water to water heat pump. I was trying
to do this with a heat exchanger but the heat exchanger module doesn't
seem to be able to attach to a loop! I am a missing something or is the
heat exchanger not functional?



Thx





Eric Allen Youngson

303.245.8586

Rocky Mountain Institute  
1820 Folsom Street Boulder, CO 50302


Rocky Mountain Institute fosters the efficient and restorative use of
resources to make the world secure, just, prosperous, and
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:10:20 -0700
From: "Eric Youngson" <eyoungson at rmi.org>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Heat exchanger module
To: "Pasha Korber-Gonzalez" <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
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Pasha,

I have not received anything useful. I am not expecting anything,
really, I've heard from experienced modelers that there has been no
answer to this question in the past but there's always hoping!

                One caveat on the Loop-to-Loop HP-it can only attach to
the lake/well loop type. This has been a point of contention for some
time.



Happy modeling!







Eric Allen Youngson

303.245.8586

Rocky Mountain Institute  
1820 Folsom Street Boulder, CO 50302


Rocky Mountain Institute fosters the efficient and restorative use of
resources to make the world secure, just, prosperous, and
life-sustaining.



From: Pasha Korber-Gonzalez [mailto:pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:04 PM
To: Eric Youngson
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Heat exchanger module



Eric,



did you receive any other responses?  If so, I'd be curious to what they
advised.  I have had problems attaching a heat exchanger to recover heat
from one loop to another.  I don't know if this will work but I recently
saw under the chiller "type" option which is a drop down menu that you
can choose (as a chiller) a Loop-to-Loop HP.  Although I haven't had a
chance to test this option, I found a little info in the help file, but
didn't offer a detailed description.



If you do try this and get it to work, please let me know.  I have two
projects where I need to transfer heat from one loop to another (ie.
heat recovery), but my models are only in the input stage for the
building footprints & zoning, haven't gotten to the systems inputs yet.



Regards,



Pasha



PK Consulting

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Eric Youngson <eyoungson at rmi.org> wrote:

equest-users,

                                I am trying to connect two water loops
in order to recover heat with a water to water heat pump. I was trying
to do this with a heat exchanger but the heat exchanger module doesn't
seem to be able to attach to a loop! I am a missing something or is the
heat exchanger not functional?



Thx





Eric Allen Youngson

303.245.8586

Rocky Mountain Institute  
1820 Folsom Street Boulder, CO 50302


Rocky Mountain Institute fosters the efficient and restorative use of
resources to make the world secure, just, prosperous, and
life-sustaining.




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:37:35 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Heat exchanger module
To: "Eric Youngson" <eyoungson at rmi.org>
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
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I'm not sure what others experience has been but:
1.  I believe the heat exchanger module is basically to attach a cooling
tower to a loop, nothing else

2.  I have had trouble having eQuest properly recovery heat from a loop.  I
have found that using chillers, eQuest will only recover up to 100% of the
chiller's hourly capacity (chillers usually reject more than 100% to the CW
loop), also, sometimes much less than 100% is recovered.

3.  With the loop-to-loop heat pump, I recall it being called on by a
cooling load, and not by a heating load.  In other words, it will reject
heat to a heating loop only when a cooling load exists, but will not turn on
if only a heating load exists.  I'd be delighted if anyone can tell me how
to operate it otherwise.

I recently completed a project that required modeling heat recovery.  I
ended up using the hourly outputs, and calculating in an excel spreadsheet.
I did get some test models that appeared to work, but when I looked at the
hourly results, sometimes only 15% of the heat was being recovered when the
HW loop could've used 100% why... I don't know.

Hope this helps, and eQuest developers--I'd love to see a solution to the
above issues.  I think that myself and some others on this list-serve would
contribute to the cost of making improvements, if possible.

Thanks,

--
Karen Walkerman

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Eric Youngson <eyoungson at rmi.org> wrote:

>  equest-users,
>
>                                I am trying to connect two water loops in
> order to recover heat with a water to water heat pump. I was trying to do
> this with a heat exchanger but the heat exchanger module doesn't seem to be
> able to attach to a loop! I am a missing something or is the heat exchanger
> not functional?
>
>
>
> Thx
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Allen Youngson
>
> 303.245.8586
>
> Rocky Mountain Institute
> 1820 Folsom Street Boulder, CO 50302
>
>
> Rocky Mountain Institute fosters the efficient and restorative use of
> resources to make the world secure, just, prosperous, and life-sustaining.
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:44:26 -0500
From: Brian Davis <BDavis at dwyer.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQUEST building skin effects in cooling but
    not    heating
To: "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org"
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I am using the refrigeration version of equest 3.61 and have several zones within the building which have exterior walls and roof.  The equest output notes loads in cooling for them but not in heating while other zones properly indicate loads for both cooling and heating, has anyone else run across this and can suggest something for me to check.  The output is listed below.




REPORT- LS-B Space Peak Load Components    EL1 NNE Perim Spc (G.NNE16)                    WEATHER FILE- Baltimore    MD TMY2

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



SPACE  EL1 NNE Perim Spc (G.NNE16)

SPACE TEMPERATURE USED FOR THE LOADS CALCULATION IS  70 F /  21 C





                    MULTIPLIER        1.0          FLOOR MULTIPLIER        1.0



                    FLOOR  AREA    28544  SQFT      2652  M2

                    VOLUME        513785  CUFT    14550  M3





                                          COOLING  LOAD                              HEATING  LOAD

                                    ==========================                ==========================

    TIME                                    AUG  3  7PM



    DRY-BULB TEMP                      93 F            34 C

    WET-BULB TEMP                      76 F            24 C

    TOT HORIZONTAL SOLAR RAD          80 BTU/H.SQFT  252 W/M2

    WINDSPEED AT SPACE                5.3 KTS          2.7 M/S

    CLOUD AMOUNT 0(CLEAR)-10            0







                                  SENSIBLE            LATENT                              SENSIBLE

                            (KBTU/H)    ( KW )  (KBTU/H)  ( KW )                    (KBTU/H)  ( KW )

                            --------    ------  --------  ------                    --------  --------



    WALL CONDUCTION          4.394    1.287    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    ROOF CONDUCTION          28.204    8.264    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    WINDOW GLASS+FRM COND    0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    WINDOW GLASS SOLAR        0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    DOOR CONDUCTION          0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    INTERNAL SURFACE COND    0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    UNDERGROUND SURF COND    -0.666    -0.195    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    OCCUPANTS TO SPACE      18.451    5.406    15.444  4.525                        0.000    0.000

    LIGHT    TO SPACE      144.060    42.209    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    EQUIPMENT TO SPACE        0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    PROCESS  TO SPACE        0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000                        0.000    0.000

    INFILTRATION              1.692    0.496    2.090  0.612                        0.000    0.000

                            --------  -------  -------  ------                    --------  --------

    TOTAL                  196.134    57.467    17.534  5.137                        0.000    0.000

    TOTAL / AREA              0.007    0.022    0.001  0.002                        0.000    0.000



    TOTAL LOAD              213.669 KBTU/H      62.605  KW                  0.000 KBTU/H        0.000  KW

    TOTAL LOAD / AREA        7.49  BTU/H.SQFT  23.609  W/M2                0.000 BTU/H.SQFT    0.000  W/M2



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:51:52 -0600
From: <Gary.Schrader at tac.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQUEST building skin effects in cooling
    but    notheating
To: <BDavis at dwyer.com>,    <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
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Brian,

You have a significant amount of light and occupant load in your
building. Are you using a heating design day? Does that design day call
for a heating design day schedule? Does that heating design day schedule
shut down the lights/occupants during the course of the day such that no
light/occupant load is contributed to the space during the heating
season?

My prediction is that your lights/occupants/etc. are still scheduled
during the winter months and thus your building doesn't NEED heat. Check
your schedules to ensure that the above items are "off" during the
winter months such that the room isn't heating itself.

Another way to prove this would be to run an hourly report and check to
see if your cooling coil(s) is/are in use during all days of the year.

Just an idea of where to start.

Thanks,
Gary Schrader
Engineer I

TAC
16011 College Blvd, Suite 212
Lenexa, KS  66219


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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:44 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] eQUEST building skin effects in cooling but
notheating



I am using the refrigeration version of equest 3.61 and have several
zones within the building which have exterior walls and roof.  The
equest output notes loads in cooling for them but not in heating while
other zones properly indicate loads for both cooling and heating, has
anyone else run across this and can suggest something for me to check.
The output is listed below.







REPORT- LS-B Space Peak Load Components    EL1 NNE Perim Spc (G.NNE16)
WEATHER FILE- Baltimore    MD TMY2

------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------



SPACE  EL1 NNE Perim Spc (G.NNE16)    

SPACE TEMPERATURE USED FOR THE LOADS CALCULATION IS  70 F /  21 C





                    MULTIPLIER        1.0          FLOOR MULTIPLIER
1.0



                    FLOOR  AREA    28544  SQFT      2652  M2 

                    VOLUME        513785  CUFT    14550  M3 





                                          COOLING  LOAD
HEATING  LOAD

                                    ==========================
==========================

    TIME                                    AUG  3  7PM




    DRY-BULB TEMP                      93 F            34 C

    WET-BULB TEMP                      76 F            24 C

    TOT HORIZONTAL SOLAR RAD          80 BTU/H.SQFT  252 W/M2

    WINDSPEED AT SPACE                5.3 KTS          2.7 M/S

    CLOUD AMOUNT 0(CLEAR)-10            0







                                  SENSIBLE            LATENT
SENSIBLE    

                            (KBTU/H)    ( KW )  (KBTU/H)  ( KW )
(KBTU/H)  ( KW )  

                            --------    ------  --------  ------
--------  --------



    WALL CONDUCTION          4.394    1.287    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    ROOF CONDUCTION          28.204    8.264    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    WINDOW GLASS+FRM COND    0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    WINDOW GLASS SOLAR        0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    DOOR CONDUCTION          0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    INTERNAL SURFACE COND    0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    UNDERGROUND SURF COND    -0.666    -0.195    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    OCCUPANTS TO SPACE      18.451    5.406    15.444  4.525
0.000    0.000

    LIGHT    TO SPACE      144.060    42.209    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    EQUIPMENT TO SPACE        0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    PROCESS  TO SPACE        0.000    0.000    0.000  0.000
0.000    0.000

    INFILTRATION              1.692    0.496    2.090  0.612
0.000    0.000

                            --------  -------  -------  ------
--------  --------

    TOTAL                  196.134    57.467    17.534  5.137
0.000    0.000

    TOTAL / AREA              0.007    0.022    0.001  0.002
0.000    0.000



    TOTAL LOAD              213.669 KBTU/H      62.605  KW
0.000 KBTU/H        0.000  KW 

    TOTAL LOAD / AREA        7.49  BTU/H.SQFT  23.609  W/M2
0.000 BTU/H.SQFT    0.000  W/M2 





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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:07:42 -0500
From: "Patrick Darby" <pdarby at twfp.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] Under heating
To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
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Hello All,

After Simulation and looking through reports SS-R and SS-O, I have had a
continuing problem of under heating in my Thermal Zones. I have allowed
my boiler capacity, all my heating coils, my heating pump parameters to
default and DOE size, but these actions are of no resolve to the under
heating. 

Has anyone else ran into this problem, and found a reasonable solution
to the problem of under heating?

Thank you for any help.





Patrick Darby, BScE








Mechanical Engineering Services


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Fax: 519-576-5499
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:09:55 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQUEST building skin effects in cooling
    but    notheating
To: Gary.Schrader at tac.com
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
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If you have a cooling design day specified, but no heating design day
specified, then the design day report will only give you cooling design, and
not heating design.  The program default design days should include both.

--
Karen

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:51 AM, <Gary.Schrader at tac.com> wrote:

>  Brian,
>
> You have a significant amount of light and occupant load in your building.
> Are you using a heating design day? Does that design day call for a heating
> design day schedule? Does that heating design day schedule shut down the
> lights/occupants during the course of the day such that no light/occupant
> load is contributed to the space during the heating season?
>
> My prediction is that your lights/occupants/etc. are still scheduled during
> the winter months and thus your building doesn't NEED heat. Check your
> schedules to ensure that the above items are "off" during the winter months
> such that the room isn't heating itself.
>
> Another way to prove this would be to run an hourly report and check to see
> if your cooling coil(s) is/are in use during all days of the year.
>
> Just an idea of where to start.
>
> Thanks,
> *Gary Schrader
> *Engineer I
>
> *TAC
> *16011 College Blvd, Suite 212
> Lenexa, KS  66219
>
>  Direct: +1  Fax: +1 913-469-0206 Mobile: +1 913-217-8068 Email:
> Gary.Schrader at tac.com Web: www.tac.com
> Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, contains
> information of TAC, which may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
> and/or legally privileged. This email is intended solely for the use of the
> individual or entity named on the message. If you are not the intended
> recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately
> return by email and then delete it.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian Davis
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:44 AM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] eQUEST building skin effects in cooling but
> notheating
>
>  I am using the refrigeration version of equest 3.61 and have several
> zones within the building which have exterior walls and roof.  The equest
> output notes loads in cooling for them but not in heating while other zones
> properly indicate loads for both cooling and heating, has anyone else run
> across this and can suggest something for me to check.  The output is listed
> below.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> REPORT- LS-B Space Peak Load Components    EL1 NNE Perim Spc
> (G.NNE16)                    WEATHER FILE- Baltimore    MD TMY2
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> SPACE  EL1 NNE Perim Spc (G.NNE16)
>
> SPACE TEMPERATURE USED FOR THE LOADS CALCULATION IS  70 F /  21 C
>
>
>
>
>
>                    MULTIPLIER        1.0          FLOOR MULTIPLIER
> 1.0
>
>
>
>                    FLOOR  AREA    28544  SQFT      2652  M2
>
>                    VOLUME        513785  CUFT    14550  M3
>
>
>
>
>
>                                          COOLING
> LOAD                              HEATING  LOAD
>
>
> ==========================                ==========================
>
>    TIME                                    AUG  3
> 7PM
>
>
>
>    DRY-BULB TEMP                      93 F            34 C
>
>    WET-BULB TEMP                      76 F            24 C
>
>    TOT HORIZONTAL SOLAR RAD          80 BTU/H.SQFT  252 W/M2
>
>    WINDSPEED AT SPACE                5.3 KTS          2.7 M/S
>
>    CLOUD AMOUNT 0(CLEAR)-10            0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                  SENSIBLE
> LATENT                              SENSIBLE
>
>                            (KBTU/H)    ( KW )  (KBTU/H)  ( KW
> )                    (KBTU/H)  ( KW )
>
>                            --------    ------  --------
> ------                    --------  --------
>
>
>
>      WALL CONDUCTION          4.394    1.287    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      ROOF CONDUCTION          28.204    8.264    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      WINDOW GLASS+FRM COND    0.000    0.000    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      WINDOW GLASS SOLAR        0.000    0.000    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      DOOR CONDUCTION          0.000    0.000    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      INTERNAL SURFACE COND    0.000    0.000    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      UNDERGROUND SURF COND    -0.666    -0.195    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      OCCUPANTS TO SPACE      18.451    5.406    15.444
> 4.525                        0.000    0.000
>
>      LIGHT    TO SPACE      144.060    42.209    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      EQUIPMENT TO SPACE        0.000    0.000    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      PROCESS  TO SPACE        0.000    0.000    0.000
> 0.000                        0.000    0.000
>
>      INFILTRATION              1.692    0.496    2.090
> 0.612                        0.000    0.000
>
>                            --------  -------  -------
> ------                    --------  --------
>
>      TOTAL                  196.134    57.467    17.534
> 5.137                        0.000    0.000
>
>      TOTAL / AREA              0.007    0.022    0.001
> 0.002                        0.000    0.000
>
>
>
>      TOTAL LOAD              213.669 KBTU/H      62.605
> KW                  0.000 KBTU/H        0.000  KW
>
>      TOTAL LOAD / AREA        7.49  BTU/H.SQFT  23.609
> W/M2                0.000 BTU/H.SQFT    0.000  W/M2
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:14:46 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Under heating
To: "Patrick Darby" <pdarby at twfp.com>
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
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If you look at your SS-O report, it will show you when your spaces are over
or under-heating.  I have found that often I am over or under cooling during
startup periods, i.e. my equipment is sized appropriately for loads at
constant indoor temperatures, but if I'm trying to heat the building 5
degrees in 1 hour, I may have some problems.

Also, in packaged systems, I have found that some of the spaces without a
thermostat often have unmet load hours.  I believe this is due to the fact
that eQuest doesn't always accurately model airflow through each zone.
Usually, when I model multiple rooms served by a single system (heat pump,
for example), I model the rooms as one zone together.  I feel that this is
appropriate as long as the spaces have similar use type, exposure and
schedules.

One last thing--if you have baseboards and you added them after the wizard,
you will need to specify the thermostat type to "Thermostatic" and give the
baseboards a capacity, otherwise, the spaces will get no heat.

--
Karen

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Patrick Darby <pdarby at twfp.com> wrote:

>                  Hello All,
>
> After Simulation and looking through reports SS-R and SS-O, I have had a
> continuing problem of under heating in my Thermal Zones. I have allowed my
> boiler capacity, all my heating coils, my heating pump parameters to default
> and DOE size, but these actions are of no resolve to the under heating.
>
> Has anyone else ran into this problem, and found a reasonable solution to
> the problem of under heating?
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
>    *Patrick Darby, BScE*
>              Mechanical Engineering Services
>
>
> * The Walter Fedy Partnership *
>  Phone: 519-576-2150 x271
> Fax: 519-576-5499
> Web: *www.twfp.com* <http://www.twfp.com/>
>
>    The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the
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> the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message. Information,
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> official business of "The Walter Fedy Partnership" will be understood as
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>
>
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