[Equest-users] Fwd: error message: "ShellWiz has no validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many shells?

[Carol Gardner]

Sorry, meant to do a reply all.
Carol

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From: Carol Gardner <cmg750 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] error message: "ShellWiz has no
validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many shells?
To: Gary.Schrader at buildings.schneider-electric.com


I'm not surprised that you got "stuck". While I understand what you're
trying to do I doubt the developers intended you to do anything like this in
either Wizard. IMHO the "art" of using this program is to learn to do what
you can as effectively as you can using the Wizards, and then get out. There
are just some things that are just easier to do, and done better if you
will, in the detailed data edit mode.

That's my 2 cents.

Carol


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:14 PM, <
Gary.Schrader at buildings.schneider-electric.com> wrote:

>  I have received this error on several occasions by screwing up the Zone
> Group Definitions Screen in the DD Wizard. (Screen 14)
>
> I have never liked eQuest's naming nomenclature, so I have always renamed
> zone groups myself so that I can better keep track of what is what. (e.g..
> "Gym" as opposed to "EL1 Ground Floor Core")
>
> If you delete all of the zone groups and then recreate them with your own
> name, sometimes I experience being unable to assign the new groups to
> spaces. When I click the mouse on a space, a context menu does NOT appear as
> it normally does. In this case, I am "stuck" and cannot assign a zone group
> to a space.
>
> My experience has been that this error occurs much more commonly if you
> have only one or two zone groups to assign to spaces.
>
> Previous uses have already chimed in as to the solution... a manual edit of
> the .pd2 file. Just thought I would give some background as to what I have
> done in the past to cause the error.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *James Hansen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:44 PM
> *To:* Carol Gardner; Richard Williams
>
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] error message: "ShellWiz has no
> validZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many shells?
>
>  Open up your PD2 file and take a look around – the ZnGrpWiz command
> usually follows the Dayshapes/Shapewiz commands for each shell, and directly
> precedes definition of the custom zones for the shell.
>
>
>
> Look thru each shell, and see if some have them and some don’t…I don’t know
> why eQuest wouldn’t automatically define this, but I’ve successfully messed
> around with the PD2 file before without damaging anything.  Make you can
> copy one of the ZnGrpWiz commands from one shell to another and make sure to
> rename accordingly.
>
>
>
> Shellwiz is a lot more important:  that’s the “beginning” of the definition
> for each shell.  Open up the PD2 file and see if there are ANY shellwiz
> definitions, and report back…
>
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Carol Gardner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:29 PM
> *To:* Richard Williams
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] error message: "ShellWiz has no valid
> ZnGrpWizchildren." --- too many shells?
>
>
>
> This sounds like an eQUEST developer question. Hopefully one of them will
> be willing/able to take the time to answer it.
>
> Carol
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Richard Williams <
> Richard.Williams at arup.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear all
>
>
>
> I have been building a model with a large number of shells. I understand
> that this is not ideal but I have many overhangs and setbacks.
>
>
>
> Once I reach about 60-70 shells a get the following error messages:
>
>
>
> “ShellWiz has no valid ZnGrpWiz children.”
>
>
>
> “Error: No ShellWiz components exist.”
>
>
>
> “Error creating BDL input file from wizard inputs!”
>
>
>
>
>
> After these messages the model becomes unusable. Is this likely to be a
> shell problem or perhaps something to do with the limitations of running in
> wizard mode?
>
>
>
> Any suggestions much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Richard
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