[Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST

[Kendra Tupper]

IBPSA is in fact already developing a BEMBook WIKI (Building Energy Modeling
= BEM). Rocky Mountain Institute is providing much of the starting content
from the training course we will be giving at Simbuild in August. This
initial content will be more focused on the building
science fundamentals behind energy modeling, as opposed to specific
programs.

However, the intent is for the content to grow, and to have WIKI sections on
different tools such as eQUEST. IBPSA is currently deciding who will
maintain and QC that content, but I don't forsee any problems with IBPSA (or
RMI for that matter) being the administrative body, as
neither organization has any allegiance to a particular tool. It was my
understanding that one of the reasons that IBPSA formed was as a result of
ASHRAE not allowing opening discussion of these tools, and IBPSA has always
fostered such open dialogue.

One idea that we (IBPSA and RMI) had was creating an expert review board
that would QC any content before it was published to the WIKI - while the
one-building lists are incredibly useful and we are all indebted to them,
there are alot of incorrect answers floating around in the archives. It
would be nice to have a resource that documents solutions and work-arounds
that at least have scientific consensus from some of the more experienced
users.


Kendra Tupper, PE, LEED AP
Senior Consultant
Built Environment Team

Rocky Mountain Institute  |  T  303-567-8641 |  F  303-245-7213  |
www.rmi.org


On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:

> I don't meant to sound contrarian... but just so it's considered - why
> exactly should additional bodies (like IBPSA/ASHRAE/etc) gain administrative
> control over this body?  I won't speculate doomsday scenarios, but I am
> concerned such additional oversight might ultimately water down what topics
> we are and aren't permitted to discuss openly and freely ($$$) as we are
> today.
>
> I personally feel the onebuilding.org lists have been administered and
> moderated extremely well (fairly and unobtrusively) for the period I have
> been reading and actively participating. My thanks to Jason Glazer and any
> other unsung heroes making this happen =).
>
> ~Nick
>
> NICK CATON, E.I.T.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Lopez, Phylroy
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:01 PM
> To: Lopez, Phylroy; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST
>
> Also, It would be good if the maintenance / administration was at least
> co-ordinated by some body or organization...maybe IBPSA international?
>
> Phylroy Lopez B.Eng LEED A.P.
> Sustainable Building Specialist
> Stantec
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> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Lopez, Phylroy
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:56 AM
> To: Sami, Vikram; Jason Glazer; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST
>
> I can help out as well.. I have some wiki experience.
>
> We could use MediaWiki.. Simple to set up and is the same engine as
> Wikipedia with lots of plug-ins.  It needs MySql, PHP, and a mailserver, and
> obviously a place to back up to.  There are other wikis depending on the
> platform onebuilding is using. I've set this up on windows and unix.
>
>
>
> Phylroy Lopez B.Eng LEED A.P.
> Sustainable Building Specialist
> Stantec
> 1100 - 111 Dunsmuir Street
> Vancouver BC V6B 6A3
> Ph: (604) 696-8337
> Fx:  (604) 696-8100
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Sami, Vikram
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: Jason Glazer; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST
>
> I don't mind helping out. I think it will be a useful site.
>
> I don't have experience with wikis though.
>
> Vikram Sami, LEED AP
> Sustainable Design Analyst
> 1382 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jason Glazer
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:23 PM
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST
>
> I think if we added a Wiki on onebuilding.org that it would
> be available for all of the mailing lists. I would assume
> that questions on specific simulation programs (such as
> eQUEST) would be on pages devoted that program. Whether
> people step forward and create useful content, that I can't
> control.
>
> So, if I install a the Wiki software on onebuilding.org
> someone (or some group) needs to do some organization and
> perhaps some administration. Any interested in helping with
> that?
>
> Jason
>
> On 6/22/2010 11:49 AM, Nick Caton wrote:
> > A perspective:
> >
> > A lot of people mistakenly sign up for only [bldg-sim] and/or
> > [equest-users] to the exclusion of the other onebuilding.org lists.  In
> > reality, there is a TON of useful information/discussion for any
> > individual that is actively posted to the different "sub-groups" here...
> > The body of people contributing across these lists is not something we
> > should risk inadvertently dividing / pulling apart by making an "eQuest"
> > only wiki.  Make no mistake - no archive of useful information will ever
> > be as functional as the community people who created it.
> >
> > My general suggestion is, if any such forum/wiki were to be conceived,
> > it really, really ought to be inclusive of all the onebuilding.org
> > lists, or else it may risk breaking apart the single most useful body of
> > professionals/practitioners/academics that I have ever known.  If any
> > final outcome ultimately disperses this group, I'd rather shoot the
> > notion down to start.
> >
> > ~Nick
> >
> > cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB**
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
> >
> > PROJECT ENGINEER
> >
> > 25501 west valley parkway
> >
> > olathe ks 66061
> >
> > direct 913 344.0036
> >
> > fax 913 345.0617
> >
> > /Check out our new web-site @ /www.smithboucher.com_ _
> >
> > *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> > [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of
> > *Lopez, Phylroy
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:39 AM
> > *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST
> >
> > I think this is an excellent idea.. Not only for eQuest but for other
> > simulation software.. Currently there is the IBPSA wiki that is active
> > and could be used.
> >
> > http://bembook.su-per-b.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
> >
> > As well as the NY chapter of IBPSA has some information..
> >
> > http://energymodeling.pbworks.com/
> >
> > The question is.. Should there is a eQuest-only wiki?
> >
> > *Phylroy Lopez B.Eng LEED A.P.*
> > Sustainable Building Specialist
> > Stantec
> >
> > 1100 - 111 Dunsmuir Street
> > Vancouver BC V6B 6A3
> > Ph: (604) 696-8337
> > Fx: (604) 696-8100
> >
> > *stantec*.com <http://www.stantec.com>
> >
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> > *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> > [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> > Easterbrook
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:16 AM
> > *To:* Anthony Hardman
> > *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] WIKI for eQUEST
> >
> > With eQuest there are many ways to skin a cat reflecting the users past
> > experience and what problem they were solving when they learned the
> > technique. The eQuest training session skips past much of the important
> > geometry input to get to some of the meatier subjects. There are a lot
> > of subjects not covered in training, and many new ideas are evolving. A
> > Wiki would be great and solve a few problems with this forum. Many
> > questions are answered over and over. The forum subject lines are not
> > always indicative of the information contained in the post. There are a
> > few different opinions on some of the topics. A Wiki would put the
> > techniques up where other "experts" could put in their 2 cents as well
> > and a good reference library could be quickly built with the best
> > answer. It would be very handy at 3 in the morning when you are banging
> > your head on a wall after missing something simple but critical and most
> > of the forum is sleeping. Plus I would imagine there would be some new
> > tricks to be learned by the old dogs too.
> > Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
> > Abode Engineering
> >
> > On 22/06/2010 11:54 AM, Anthony Hardman wrote:
> >
> > I think it could be extremely useful depending on how it's implemented.
> >
> > Lots of industries use it already.
> >
> >
> >
> > While it's great to have access to the multitude of eQuest opinions, I
> think
> >
> > it also has the tendency to be overwhelming for the average new user.
>  For
> >
> > example, Joe the Newbie asks,"how do I do such and such,"  which prompts
> a
> >
> > cascade of 5 different answers.
> >
> >
> >
> > If I'm looking for a reference, I'd be more interested in 1 good answer
> >
> > rather than 5 possible answers.
> >
> >
> >
> > To address that, would it be possible to create mini"think tanks"
>  composed
> >
> > of 3-5 volunteer sim professionals (per question) who are willing to
> >
> > collaborate and come up with that"1 good answer"  to be included in the
> wiki
> >
> > FAQ?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd volunteer my time for that!
> >
> >
> >
> > Anthony Hardman, PE
> >
> > Building Energy Analyst
> >
> > Geo-Energy Services
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<From%3Aequest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> <mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
> >
> > [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jason
> >
> > Glazer
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:08 AM
> >
> > To:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<To%3Aequest-users at lists.onebuilding.org> <mailto:
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Equest-users] make exterior wall an interior wall
> >
> >
> >
> > I have considered adding a Wiki to the onebuilding.org web
> >
> > site to allow material related to specific simulation
> >
> > programs (such as a Frequently Asked Questions for
> >
> > eQUEST-users) to be posted. The visual guide that you put
> >
> > together would probably be a good addition. Would a Wiki be
> >
> > useful?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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