[Equest-users] Equest freeze and Spreadsheet refresh error

Carol Gardner gems at spiritone.com
Fri Oct 21 14:43:32 PDT 2011


Hi Jude,

You can always justify using mechanical zones if they are available. I 
would be surprised if there are 500 of them.

Carol

On 10/21/2011 2:25 PM, Chakraborty, Jude wrote:
>
> Thanks Nick/Aaron,
>
> I think going back simplifying the model with weighted zones instead 
> of the architectural space types (which I had originally modeled with) 
> will be the best option. Hopefully this will help. I know splitting 
> the model is another option I can try, but then again, that's an 
> untouched territory as far as my equest skills are concerned. I will 
> keep you posted on that.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jude.
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> *From:*Nick Caton [mailto:ncaton at smithboucher.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 2:05 PM
> *To:* Dahlstrom, Aaron; Chakraborty, Jude; 
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Equest freeze and Spreadsheet refresh error
>
> Jude/Aaron,
>
> When I've run into this circumstance I've taken it as great 
> justification to go back and simplify the model.  If that's not out of 
> the question considering your timeline and requirements for accuracy, 
> I would definitely advise carefully assessing whether you can define 
> things in a simpler fashion.  Attached recent discussion with James 
> Chueh seems to parallel your situation and may help you brainstorm a 
> few ideas.
>
> I've never done this due to sheer model size (only on smaller 
> projects), but I have advocated "splitting the model" for 
> time-efficiency, and that may be a good strategy for you in this 
> instance.  Look for an importing mini guide thread I posted in the 
> archives.
>
> The concept is to build up parallel model files that are intentionally 
> structured/named in a fashion to be import-able into each other.  You 
> may find splitting your building in two will be functionally 
> manageable with the eQuest interface, and if/when you need to model 
> both halves of the building together you can go through the importing 
> hoops.  Before going far down this path I would personally give this 
> strategy a test run to be sure the importing feature doesn't cause 
> unique issues due to model size... uncharted territory!
>
> ~Nick
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> *From:*equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org 
> [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Dahlstrom, Aaron
> *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 3:28 PM
> *To:* Chakraborty, Jude; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Equest freeze and Spreadsheet refresh error
>
> We have definitely have had models that were so large we couldn't make 
> changes in the spreadsheet view.
>
> It's tedious but one option is to make any changes needed in the 
> dialog boxes.
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> *From:*equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org 
> [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Chakraborty, Jude
> *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 1:41 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Equest freeze and Spreadsheet refresh error
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am trying to model a high rise 25 floor courthouse building with 
> multiple shells (12) and  many zones (near 500). I have used floor 
> multipliers where I could to make the model simpler but it ended up 
> with 60,000 lines and about 7500 components. The .bdl file doesn't 
> show any error and I have also run a default simulation, which took 
> its time but gave results without any errors.
>
> Now in the detailed interface, equest freezes whenever I try to make 
> changes on anything or create a new schedule. Also when I go to the 
> building shell spreadsheet, it shows this "Spreadsheet refresh error" 
> with the following text "Selection list exceeds maximum length of 
> 65,500 characters (98,339required). Notify program support 
> representative".
>
> Does it mean that I need to reduce number of spaces/zones or divide my 
> building into two separate files? Any idea how to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jude.
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