[Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow report & DOE-2 BEPU report

[Pasha Korber-Gonzalez]

Hi Nick & Patrick---I've checked the csv file and it is correct as you both
have explained it.  The csv file feeds the eQuest reports (not the .sim
output file) & the csv file only picks up on the initial utility meters
(i.e. EM1/FM1) and therefore the additional energy use/meters are not
included or reported to the eQuest output reports (which I refer to as the
Rainbow reports for utility usage and demand.)

Therefore based on this finding/confirmation---it is imperative that I feed
my client results directly from the DOE-2 .sim file output reports (ie
BEPU/BEPS; PS-E) reports to offer the correct energy model output results.
  At this level of the model file when there are additional meter or energy
production/consumption the standard eQuest output results reports/graphs do
not translate the actual model results.

Thanks so much guys for your insight & assistance!!

Pasha


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>wrote:

>  Thanks Patrick, that falls in line with my recollections as well (I’m
> working from fuzzy memory!).  Perhaps my suggestion is more accurately put
> that the CSV results file does not pick up on additional meters or energy
> generation, as may be occurring…****
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> Pasha, since this is fresh and in front of you, would you mind quickly
> checking/testing if this is the case for us all?****
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> *From:* Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. [mailto:poleary1969 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 11:47 AM
> *To:* Nick Caton
> *Cc:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez; eQUEST Users List
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow report
> & DOE-2 BEPU report****
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> the 'rainbow' reports actually pull their data from a separate csv format
> file named "project name - baseline design_EG_MoEU_ED.csv", not from the
> .sim file.
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> you could, in theory, edit the .csv file to make the numbers match.  i
> haven't tried doing so but since it is only a csv file you'd have to change
> it every time you run the simulation.
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> On 7/15/13 9:21 AM, Nick Caton wrote: ****
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> I *believe* the “rainbow” graphical reports are specific to *only* the
> EM1/FM1 default meters, and if you have included anything else in the way
> of sub-meters or separate utility rate metering that may not show up in
> these numbers (but will in the BEPU and other SIM reports).  ****
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> For this reason, as a matter of course I have moved away from using the
> graphical reports and opt to use the PSE reports instead when assembling
> enduse consumption/demand documentation for LEED and similar levels of
> scrutiny – just to avoid such potential trip-ups.  The graphical reports
> are still great and useful, but it’s good to be aware of what they might
> not be showing!****
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
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> *On Behalf Of *Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 10:33 AM
> *To:* eQUEST Users List
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow report &
> DOE-2 BEPU report****
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> Hi fellow modelers;   I've run into something funny this past couple days.
>  On a couple of my simulations I've noticed that the results numbers in the
> eQuest Rainbow report are slightly higher (approx 10%) than the output
> results in my DOE-2 BEPU report.****
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> I've never observed this happening before--has anyone else?****
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> Any thoughts and comments are welcomed!****
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> Thanks,****
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> Pasha****
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