[Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow report & DOE-2 BEPU report

Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. poleary1969 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 16 04:25:12 PDT 2013


so if you manually change the .csv file to match the .sim file, do the 
rainbow reports reflect the data properly?

On 7/15/13 11:51 PM, Pasha Korber-Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi Nick & Patrick---I've checked the csv file and it is correct as you 
> both have explained it.  The csv file feeds the eQuest reports (not 
> the .sim output file) & the csv file only picks up on the initial 
> utility meters (i.e. EM1/FM1) and therefore the additional energy 
> use/meters are not included or reported to the eQuest output reports 
> (which I refer to as the Rainbow reports for utility usage and demand.)
>
> Therefore based on this finding/confirmation---it is imperative that I 
> feed my client results directly from the DOE-2 .sim file output 
> reports (ie BEPU/BEPS; PS-E) reports to offer the correct energy model 
> output results.   At this level of the model file when there are 
> additional meter or energy production/consumption the standard eQuest 
> output results reports/graphs do not translate the actual model results.
>
> Thanks so much guys for your insight & assistance!!
>
> Pasha
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com 
> <mailto:ncaton at smithboucher.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Patrick, that falls in line with my recollections as well
>     (I’m working from fuzzy memory!).  Perhaps my suggestion is more
>     accurately put that the CSV results file does not pick up on
>     additional meters or energy generation, as may be occurring…
>
>     Pasha, since this is fresh and in front of you, would you mind
>     quickly checking/testing if this is the case for us all?
>
>     Thanks!
>
>     ~Nick
>
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>     *From:*Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. [mailto:poleary1969 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:poleary1969 at gmail.com>]
>     *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 11:47 AM
>     *To:* Nick Caton
>     *Cc:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez; eQUEST Users List
>     *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow
>     report & DOE-2 BEPU report
>
>     the 'rainbow' reports actually pull their data from a separate csv
>     format file named "project name - baseline design_EG_MoEU_ED.csv",
>     not from the .sim file.
>
>     you could, in theory, edit the .csv file to make the numbers
>     match.  i haven't tried doing so but since it is only a csv file
>     you'd have to change it every time you run the simulation.
>
>     On 7/15/13 9:21 AM, Nick Caton wrote:
>
>     I *believe* the “rainbow” graphical reports are specific to _only_
>     the EM1/FM1 default meters, and if you have included anything else
>     in the way of sub-meters or separate utility rate metering that
>     may not show up in these numbers (but will in the BEPU and other
>     SIM reports).
>
>     For this reason, as a matter of course I have moved away from
>     using the graphical reports and opt to use the PSE reports instead
>     when assembling enduse consumption/demand documentation for LEED
>     and similar levels of scrutiny – just to avoid such potential
>     trip-ups.  The graphical reports are still great and useful, but
>     it’s good to be aware of what they might not be showing!
>
>     ~Nick
>
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>     *NICK CATON, P.E.*
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>     SENIOR ENGINEER
>
>     Smith & Boucher Engineers
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>     25501 west valley parkway, suite 200
>
>     olathe, ks 66061
>
>     direct 913.344.0036 <tel:913.344.0036>
>
>     fax 913.345.0617 <tel:913.345.0617>
>
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>     [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of
>     *Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
>     *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 10:33 AM
>     *To:* eQUEST Users List
>     *Subject:* [Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow
>     report & DOE-2 BEPU report
>
>     Hi fellow modelers;   I've run into something funny this past
>     couple days.  On a couple of my simulations I've noticed that the
>     results numbers in the eQuest Rainbow report are slightly higher
>     (approx 10%) than the output results in my DOE-2 BEPU report.
>
>     I've never observed this happening before--has anyone else?
>
>     Any thoughts and comments are welcomed!
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Pasha
>
>     Korber Energy Consultants
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>     www.korberenergy.com <http://www.korberenergy.com>
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