[Equest-users] VAV System - high cooling energy in winter

Samuel Mason samuel.mason at sa-footprint.com
Mon Jul 14 11:12:08 PDT 2014


Maybe check the humidity controls. It is possible the dewpoint is set such that 51F is required to remove moisture from the air.


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From: Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Michael Campbell
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 7:35 AM
To: John Aulbach; Travis Miller; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] VAV System - high cooling energy in winter

I have the cooling temp set to 55, but for some reason it is cooling down to 51

Mike Campbell, E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
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From: John Aulbach [mailto:jra_sac at yahoo.com<mailto:jra_sac at yahoo.com>]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 1:12 PM
To: Michael Campbell; Travis Miller; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] VAV System - high cooling energy in winter

Looks like a classic reheating operation to me. Air hits cooling coil first (51 F), then reheated to 58. Why are you not allowing the cooling coil temp to back off?

John R. Aulbach, PE

On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:10 AM, Michael Campbell <mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com<mailto:mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com>> wrote:

I ran a report to look at the supply air temps from the AHU’s and here is what I have in the first hour of the year:

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From this, it looks like the air is being cooled down to 51F then heated back up to 59F.  Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening?  I can’t seem to figure this out.

Thanks,

Mike Campbell, E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
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Sustainable Solutions Corporation
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From: John Aulbach [mailto:jra_sac at yahoo.com<mailto:jra_sac at yahoo.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:48 PM
To: Michael Campbell; Travis Miller; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] VAV System - high cooling energy in winter

Have you tried resetting chilled and hot water temperatures? Also, how much of your load is outside air?

John R. Aulbach, PE

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:09 AM, Michael Campbell <mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com<mailto:mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com>> wrote:

It looks like this did the trick – thank you!

Mike Campbell, E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
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Sustainable Solutions Corporation
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From: Travis Miller [mailto:tmiller at dcengineering.net<mailto:tmiller at dcengineering.net>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Michael Campbell; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] VAV System - high cooling energy in winter

You have the cooling control set at constant – do you know if the existing building has a sequence of operation to follow?

For a recent  new building which had a VAV air handler with a chilled water coil (water delivered from an aquifer in this case, VFD drives, etc.) I used the below parameters, which appear to have a large effect on your model.

Travis

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From: Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Michael Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 12:58 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Subject: [Equest-users] VAV System - high cooling energy in winter

Hi,

I’m trying to model an existing building with a chilled water VAV system.  The chilled water usage is much higher in the winter time than expected.  Is this a common issue?  Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this?  My files are attached.

Mike Campbell, E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
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