[BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group

[Chris Jones]

We use DOE2.1e in our shop.  Primarily because of the significant 
verification against measured data that has been done on DOE2.1e over the 
years.  The other reason is that ASHRAE 90.1 and in particular LEED require 
simulation using DOE2.1e.

Here in Canada, the Model National Energy Code, Performance Option required 
simulation using EE4 (a free compliance tool http://www.ee4.com ) that used 
the DOE2.1e engine from Hirsh and Associates.  Similar to eQuest, you can 
use EE4 to quickly generate an input file then edit it for you particular 
situation.





>We use eQuest extensively, sometimes using the wizard mode to get started, 
>sometimes not. We began using DOE2.1d when it was first available on PC 
>platforms and kept with it through PowerDOE and the `never officially 
>released DOE2.2. We often use eQuest to create BDL code which we then edit 
>with a text editor.  I must admit I m sometimes surprised to hear of 
>modelers (often in Academic situations) still working with 2.1e when `2.2 
>is a significant improvement and is absolutely free via eQuest.
>
>I, like John, am holding off on EnergyPlus until I can justify the 
>tremendous expense of training my people on a new product that is still 
>not ready for prime time. Eventually, I hope, but not yet. I m guessing 
>five years before there is a product that is enough better than eQuest to 
>justify the investment. (And that s assuming eQuest doesn t continue to 
>improve).
>
>I imagine that there are numerous eQuest users that are not aware of the 
>BLDG-SIM forum. Too bad it would be nice to see more interaction around 
>the eQuest program.  Perhaps SCE/EDR could provide an information blurb 
>about this forum on their web site or to everyone who down loads eQuest.
>
>
>
>
>
>Mark E. Case, P.E.
>
>etc Group, Inc.
>
>Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: postman at gard.com [mailto:postman at gard.com] On Behalf Of Mike Roberts
>Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:03 PM
>To: BLDG-SIM at GARD.COM
>Subject: [BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group
>
>
>
>John,
>
>
>
>There are at least a few of us out here using eQUEST/DOE-2.2 on a regular 
>basis.  I started using DOE-2.1 back when it was Cal-ERDA 1.3 (about 1979) 
>and have followed the Hirsch upgrades through PowerDOE and eQUEST.  I have 
>only seen a Beta version of eQUEST 3.0, but it looks very interesting.
>
>
>
>My specialty is energy simulation and I use eQUEST and the "Detailed Data 
>Edit" Mode on almost all of our energy simulation jobs.  JJ Hirsch and 
>Associates are looking for ways to offer more support, but probably at a 
>price.  I can offer some support, free if it is trivial (to me) or at my 
>regular rates if it is more involved.  Our web site is 
><http://www.roberts-engineering.com/>http://www.roberts-engineering.com/. 
>Hopefully, you will find some useful information there.
>
>
>
>I think the User Group is a good idea, though you already have a 
>discussion forum through <mailto:BLDG-SIM at gard.com>BLDG-SIM at gard.com.  Let 
>me know how much interest you get.
>
>
>
>Mike
>-----Original Message-----
>From: postman at gard.com [mailto:postman at gard.com]On Behalf Of Aulbach, John
>Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:43 AM
>To: BLDG-SIM at gard.com
>Subject: [BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group
>May I ask how many people are attempting to use eQuest/DOE-2.2? I would 
>like to form a User Group for exchanging questions and war stories, as the 
>creators of the program do not apparently have funding for very much 
>support (Sad).
>I have taken Marlin Addison's a few times, with the last version I have 
>(3.0) FINALLY beginning to make sense. I have used DOE-2.1 since 1984 and 
>have some small familiarity with the intent, switches, and boundaries of 
>the program. Until a decent front end come along for EnergyPlus, this is 
>the way I am going.
>There claims to be over 7,000 downloads of the program. Anyone getting 
>into the "world past the Wizards" yet?
>
>
>John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM
>Project Engineer
>Sempra Energy Solutions
>555 West Fifth Street
>Mail Location 27F3
>Los Angeles, CA 90013
>Tel: (213) 244-8551 Cell (213) 219-4875
>
>
>"Sempra Energy Solutions is not the same company as SDG&E/ SoCalGas, the 
>Utilities.  Sempra Energy Solutions is not regulated by the California 
>Public Utilities Commission, and you do not have to buy Sempra Energy 
>Solutions products or services to continue to receive quality regulated 
>service from the Utilities."
>
>
>
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>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
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>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
>
>Normal.dot  2/4/2003   2:33 PM
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>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
>
>Normal.dot  2/4/2003   2:33 PM
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>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
>
>Normal.dot  2/4/2003   2:33 PM
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>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
>
>Normal.dot  2/4/2003   2:33 PM
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>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
>
>Normal.dot  2/4/2003   2:33 PM
>
>etc Group, Inc.    3481 South 2300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah 
>84109    (801) 278-1927, FAX (801) 278-1942
>
>Normal.dot  2/4/2003   2:33 PM


Chris Jones, P. Eng.
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