[Bldg-sim] 90.1-2010 question

[Leonard Sciarra]

The correct interpretation is buildings less than 1000 sf.   The example cited earlier of a small stand alone restaurant is valid.

Exception g is the exception for individual spaces.

Sorry for the crammed in the standard.  So much of this text is old and does not always get the rewrite it deserves.

Leonard Sciarra
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From: "David Eldridge" <dse at grummanbutkus.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 5:31 pm
Subject: [Bldg-sim] 90.1-2010 question
To: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org" <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>

I always interpreted this the other way -- if the space adjacent to the
opening was small, then it was itself the vestibule.

I can see your point about adding cost to a small building -- but 1,000 ft2
is so small relative the scale of most buildings that it seems like this is
describing a space to me.

The wording would normally be "located in a climate zone" AND "that are less
than 1,000 ft2" if you meant for them to be both referring to the
buildings...unless there is a possibility that the entrance is not in the
same climate zone as the rest of the building ;)

Since "AND" is not there, if you delete the wording about the climate zone
from the sentence, it seems to clearly refer to the entrances and not the
building.

"Building...that are less than 1,000 ft2..."  ---> grammar guru rejects this
one

"Building entrances...that are less than 1,000 ft2..."  ---> grammar guru
celebrates, saves energy, and provides great IEQ!

So that said...anyone check the User's Manual?  This seems like a good item
to be included.  Maybe also a COMCheck envelope compliance report, I don't
recall the exact wording used there.  Perhaps it prints out the AHJ's
checklist with clearer wording.  I don't remember if this is included in
that checklist off the top of my head though.

David

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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Nick Caton
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:56 PM
To: Jim Dirkes; Chris Jones; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] 90.1-2010 question

I have also taken those areas in the exceptions as the entire building's,
though I'd agree it's not worded clearly enough to prevent various
interpretations.

I'm not an English major, but I think if you could find a grammar guru
they'd be able to cite something to the following effect: When a sentence's
subject and object is not made clear by any other means in the
structure/word choice, the word closest to the verb is the object affected
by that verb.
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