[Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models

[Rosenberg, Michael I]

That is a good point Jim. To actually generate a baseline following either of the protocols, it is necessary to first do a sizing run. So the automation would need to be a two-step process.

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From: Jim Dirkes [mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:13 AM
To: Jeremiah Crossett; Rosenberg, Michael I
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Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models

I think you need to define "automatically" carefully.
DesignBuilder does a fair amount of the work and Simergy intends to do something similar.
As an example, the proper ASHRAE 90.1 EER / COP is not known until you actually run the simulation and find out the capacity.  It seems to me that some of the criteria must be ascertained from a successful simulation before you can have a complete Baseline.
Another example that has been discussed in this forum  is calculating the proper fan and pump pressure rise to comply with 90.1

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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuildingorg] On Behalf Of Jeremiah Crossett
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Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models

Bentley havacomp AECOSIM does for one..


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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Rosenberg, Michael I <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov<mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>> wrote:
I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a question for me. What software packages out there automatically generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.

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Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
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ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE

Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
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Eugene, OR 97405
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