[Bldg-sim] Energy Model from Green Star (LEED) to predictive model
Chris Jones
cj at enersave.ca
Sun Jan 27 07:56:57 PST 2013
I don't believe there can be any hard rules about the percentage of
error when calibrating a model. The margin of error is proportional
to the amount of information available. The rest is engineering and
experience. Attached is a typical report we use to illustrate how
close the calibration is.
This particular project is a community centre, pool, with an arena
adjacent for heat exchange. A tricky one.
At 05:16 PM 24/01/2013, Morgan Heater wrote:
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>I've been getting within 10% without calibration on the last five or
>six buildings I've done where I've tracked the bills
>afterwards. The key is to be thorough and careful. If you're not
>getting reasonably close, how can you justify your recommendations
>for energy efficiency measures?
>
>
>Morgan Heater, P.E.
>BEMP, LEED AP
>morgan at ecotope.com
>206-322-3753
>206-596-4709 Direct
>
>From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Kapil Upadhyaya
>Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:08 PM
>To: Jason Quinn; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model from Green Star (LEED) to
>predictive model
>
>Get utility bills (if you can), or Use Energy Star or CBECs for a
>reference building (CBECs median may be higher than a 1930 building
>!); based on these, you can present a range between 'simulated'
>savings and 'estimated' savings.
>
>Kapil Upadhyaya, LEED AP
>Associate
>Kirksey | Architecture
>
>From: Jason Quinn [mailto:jason.e.quinn at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:38 PM
>To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>Subject: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model from Green Star (LEED) to predictive model
>
>I've ALWAYS avoided predictive modeling (telling a client your
>energy usage will be below X) as I've been scared. Now I'm pretty
>deep into a project performing Green Star energy modeling and my
>client has popped the question.
>
>We've discussed "why it is hard" and the big three un-knowns:
>Infiltration, Occupant behavior!!, and Actual Weather. They still
>want me to go forward and are willing to put a bunch of caviates and
>an agreed margin on the results.
>
>This is an old 1930's building 200,000 sq ft with original metal
>window frames (single pane) that will not be replaced (heritage).
>We're insulating the roof and basement ceiling and a completely new
>HVAC system. Is there a standard process I can follow or specific
>suggestions the community could offer?
>
>So far my idea is to try and guesstimate infiltration, box in
>comfort behavior with lease agreements and a survey, and put some
>margin on weather.
>
>--
>Jason
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Christopher Jones, P.Eng.
Suite 1801, 1 Yonge Street
Toronto, ON M5E1W7
Tel. 416-203-7465
Fax. 416-946-1005
email cj at enersave.ca
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