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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: ventlation methods problem
If the ventilation flow is continuous during certain schedule hours, then you
should be able to do the air flow using VENTILATION and MIXING. Use
VENTILATION to move outside air into the corridor. Use MIXING to move an equal
volume of air from the corridor into the classroom. The ventilation and mixing
algorithms assume that when air enters a zone an equal amount of air leaves the
space through exfiltration or mixing to another zone.
Mike
On 6 May 2004, at 7:04, itamargoldberger wrote:
> I will try to explain my problem:
> I am simulating a simple school model, contains a class and a
> corridor next to it. The class HVAC system is simple HeatPump for
> heating and cooling.
> In order to keep good IAQ in the class, I need to enter some fresh
> air into it. In order to save energy, I want the air to enter first
> to the corridor, then from the corridor to the class and from the
> class outside.
> The problem is that neither ventilation nor mixing/cross mixing can
> create such an air path.( outside-corridor-class-outside)
> I need to find the way to create this air path WITHOUT changing my
> HVAC system.
> I CAN add some fans or venting machines between the class and the
> corridor.
> Thanks for being patient.
> Itamar
>
>
>
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael J. Witte"
> <mjwitte@g...> wrote:
> > Nothing has changed to allow more that one ventilation method per
> zone.
> >
> > I do not understand the other part of your question. Can you give
> more
> > details, please?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 May 2004, at 11:11, itamargoldberger wrote:
> >
> > > Mike Hi!
> > > Is any new module in Var 1.2 is dealing with the problem of more
> than
> > > one ventilation methods per zone?
> > > I tried to create a file, using the systems you suggested, but it
> > > seems to change the whole system I run (simple Autosized HeatPump)
> and
> > > I can't compare the results with the previous I got already.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Itamar
> > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael J. Witte"
> > > <mjwitte@g...> wrote:
> > > > There are example files for these two system types in
> > > EnergyPlus\ExampleFiles:
> > > >
> > > > UnitVentilator.idf
> > > >
> > > > WindAC.idf
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 29 Feb 2004, at 7:36, itamargoldberger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Mike
> > > > > can you help me with the entering of this kind of system ? (
> Is
> > > it
> > > > > the outside Air system ? What are the other components
> related to
> > > > > it ?) I didn't understand all of it from the I/O manual.
> > > > > Itamar
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael J. Witte"
> > > > > <mjwitte@g...> wrote:
> > > > > > The only way to do this would be to implement one of the
> > > > > ventilation options as
> > > > > > an air system. Perhaps the Unit Ventilator or a window air
> > > > > conditioner with
> > > > > > zero coil capacity would be able to do one of the two
> > > strategies?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 25 Feb 2004, at 8:00, itamargoldberger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All !
> > > > > > > I am running some school clases with outside air
> ventilation
> > > at
> > > > > day
> > > > > > > hours and cooling night cycle ventilaton at night hours.
> > > > > > > The problem is that every zone can have only 1
> ventilation
> > > method
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > there is a difference between the delta temperature I
> want at
> > > ay
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > at night ( Day hours - dT= -100 Night hours dT=2 for
> cooling
> > > > > only at
> > > > > > > summer ) How can I enter that into the IDF?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Eng. I. Goldberger
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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