[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: indoor swimming pool

["xyliu925" <bill.liu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi

Could I get the paper, please?

My email address is 

bill.liu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks


--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "solarmech" 
<solarmech@...> wrote:
>
> Hello. I aggre with the "impossible" part.
> 
> We had to simulate an indoor swimming pool once. We used the 
> following approach:
> The natatorium space was one zone. solar gains and internal 
> temperature of that zone was used in an excel programm where water 
> temperature of the pool and the latent heat gain given by the pool 
> was calculated. Next step was to use these temperatures (8760hours) 
> as an "othersidecoefficient" surface for the natatorium zone floor 
> and latent heat gain as an internal gain (8760hour). and then 
> calculate zone temperature again. in a three time loop.
> 
> think about it and try it. 
> 
> The following paper might help. 
> THE HEAT BALANCE OF URBAN
> SWIMMING POOLS
> G, SZEICZ and R. C. MCMONAGLE
> Scarborough College, University of Toronto, 1265 Military Trail, 
West 
> Hill, Ontario, Canada MIC 1A4
> If you cant find it email me personally and I sent it to you.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Edward G. Lyon" 
> <eglyon@> wrote:
> >
> > I believe that it is nearly impossible to fully model a swimming 
> pool in any of the energy modeling programs.  There are no means to 
> model water evaporation interaction with the mechanical equipment 
and 
> the current mechanical equipment can't be combined and controlled 
to 
> simulate some of the more specialized pool mechanical systems.  The 
> task would require becoming an EnergyPlus developer and writing 
your 
> own modules for the load and equipment.
> > 
> > Ned Lyon, P.E. (MA)
> > Staff Consultant
> > SIMPSON GUMPERTZ & HEGER
> > 781.907.9000 main
> > 781.907.9350 direct
> > 781.907.9009 fax
> > www.sgh.com
> > 
> > From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> alice.bellazzi
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:40 AM
> > To: EnergyPlus_Support
> > Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] indoor swimming pool
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > usually I work with DB, but I want to learn to use E+..and now I 
> have to simulate an indoor swimming pool...It is possible in E+?
> > The roof is in ETFE..I think I need to simplifing it, because it 
is 
> really difficult to draw the exact shape, it is a kind of 
> transparent "pillow".
> > 
> > Thank you very much,
> > 
> > Alis
> > 
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> > Date : Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:11:26 -0700
> > Subject : Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Expand mixer and splitter 
> fields .....
> > 
> > > The instructions are included at the top of the object (where 
the
> > > \extensible is).
> > >
> > > Copy and paste as instructed. Save the IDD. Make a back up of 
it 
> first.
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > > At 09:03 AM 1/21/2009, rizosi wrote:
> > > >Dear users,
> > > >
> > > >I am trying to simulate a building where the main AHU serves 
91 
> zones.
> > > >This means that the "airloopHVAC" object must handle 91 inlets 
> and
> > > >outlets. Knowing that the maximum amount of inlets and outlets 
> (in a
> > > >mixer and splitter respectivelly) is 50 (in the idf editor), 
can
> > > >someone advice me how am I suppose to "extend" the number of 
> fields in
> > > >a notepad editor so that all my return and supply loops are 
> accomodated?
> > > >
> > > >Any help will be HUGELLY appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > >Ioannis Rizos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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