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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: indoor swimming pool
Hello. I aggre with the "impossible" part.
We had to simulate an indoor swimming pool once. We used the
following approach:
The natatorium space was one zone. solar gains and internal
temperature of that zone was used in an excel programm where water
temperature of the pool and the latent heat gain given by the pool
was calculated. Next step was to use these temperatures (8760hours)
as an "othersidecoefficient" surface for the natatorium zone floor
and latent heat gain as an internal gain (8760hour). and then
calculate zone temperature again. in a three time loop.
think about it and try it.
The following paper might help.
THE HEAT BALANCE OF URBAN
SWIMMING POOLS
G, SZEICZ and R. C. MCMONAGLE
Scarborough College, University of Toronto, 1265 Military Trail, West
Hill, Ontario, Canada MIC 1A4
If you cant find it email me personally and I sent it to you.
Regards
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Edward G. Lyon"
<eglyon@...> wrote:
>
> I believe that it is nearly impossible to fully model a swimming
pool in any of the energy modeling programs. There are no means to
model water evaporation interaction with the mechanical equipment and
the current mechanical equipment can't be combined and controlled to
simulate some of the more specialized pool mechanical systems. The
task would require becoming an EnergyPlus developer and writing your
own modules for the load and equipment.
>
> Ned Lyon, P.E. (MA)
> Staff Consultant
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> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
alice.bellazzi
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:40 AM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] indoor swimming pool
>
>
> Hi,
>
> usually I work with DB, but I want to learn to use E+..and now I
have to simulate an indoor swimming pool...It is possible in E+?
> The roof is in ETFE..I think I need to simplifing it, because it is
really difficult to draw the exact shape, it is a kind of
transparent "pillow".
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Alis
>
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> Date : Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:11:26 -0700
> Subject : Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Expand mixer and splitter
fields .....
>
> > The instructions are included at the top of the object (where the
> > \extensible is).
> >
> > Copy and paste as instructed. Save the IDD. Make a back up of it
first.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > At 09:03 AM 1/21/2009, rizosi wrote:
> > >Dear users,
> > >
> > >I am trying to simulate a building where the main AHU serves 91
zones.
> > >This means that the "airloopHVAC" object must handle 91 inlets
and
> > >outlets. Knowing that the maximum amount of inlets and outlets
(in a
> > >mixer and splitter respectivelly) is 50 (in the idf editor), can
> > >someone advice me how am I suppose to "extend" the number of
fields in
> > >a notepad editor so that all my return and supply loops are
accomodated?
> > >
> > >Any help will be HUGELLY appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >Ioannis Rizos
> > >
> > >
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