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Re: [Bldg-sim] [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI
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- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:33:34 -0000
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Hello,
Thanks a lot for everybody. I have carefully read your messages. According to your messages I think Designbuilder could be a compromise between price, design capabilities, CFD module and of course link with E+. I hope it is a good choice.
As I work in an engineering school, Catia is a useful tool particularly for industrial parts. "Digital project" of Gehry Tech (first developped at Stanford & Dassault Systèmes) uses the Catia kernel. This soft is IFC compatible, what do you think about it?
B.Cavallier
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Bruno Cavallier, Engineer, PhD, Assistant professor
ENSMM, Besançon, France
Institut FEMTO-ST, Département MN2S, Besançon, France
(33) 3 81 85 39 21
email: bruno.cavallier@xxxxxxxxxxx
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--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin Kyte <kkyte@...> wrote:
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> Free sketchup is not going to support dwg importing for much longer.
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> ________________________________
> From: Jackson, Alan [mailto:ajackson@...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:09 PM
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> Cc: bldg-sim@...
> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI
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> In what sense?
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> If you mean it doesn't have every single capability of modeling like the IDF or Text editor would, yes. But nothing does. It's hard to keep up with the E+ developer cycle ;-)
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> If you mean it doesn't run off Energyplus 3.0. It does.
>
> I don't use it because it's too expensive. I prefer OpenStudio and the IDF Editor/Textpad because you have access to all the capabilities that E+ has to offer, but it took me years to become even semi comfortable (read: confident) with modeling through a txt file.
>
> Either way maybe this should be moved over to BLDG-SIM.
>
> Alan Jackson, LEED AP
> KlingStubbins
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> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Emanuele Naboni
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> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI
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> Yes, but Hevacomp does not have the capabilities of EnergyPlus.
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> 2009/10/29 Jackson, Alan <ajackson@...<mailto:ajackson@...>>
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> You should look into Hevacomp which is being revamped for the US.
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> Alan Jackson, LEED AP
> KlingStubbins
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> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Josh K
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:00 PM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI
>
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>
> Hello;
>
> My feeling is that their currently is not a *perfect* GUI for EnergyPlus, especially if you're interested in interoperability (ie IFC, gbXML, etc). Designbuilder seems to be getting closest in this regard, but when I tested it a while ago I found the modelling interface to be a bit clumsy and restrictive. OpenStudio is not bad, but still needs a little work to be practical for every day use (for instance, to my knowledge there is currently no good way to specify a heat transfer surface's adjacency conditions). I currently use ECOTECT, which had a lot of promise when I started using it three years ago but has progressed exactly zero since then. I don't know much about the other system you mention.
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> To summarize: the three you mention will all probably work for you, and each have their own advantages and disadvantages. If you're specifically interested in IFC compatibility, I'm not sure about the status of DesignBuilder in this respect, but neither OpenStudio nor ECOTECT currently have this capability.
>
> Josh
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:14 AM, bcavallier <bruno.cavallier@...<mailto:bruno.cavallier@...>> wrote:
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>
> Hello,
>
> I want to learn EnergyPlus but I need a GUI. As it is a new activity for me, I would like to find the better couple [E+/GUI] regarding my needs. I am mainly interested in building energy simulation, particularly on the topics of energy efficiency and the smart use of solar energy for solar passive designing. I saw a lot of software on the web : Google Sketch Up with Openstudio, Designbuilder (well described at Harvard), Ecotect...
>
> How can I make the best choice? My choice will use the IFC standard. I saw another software : Digital Project of Gehry Technologies which is based on Catia (Dassault Systemes) that works with IFC standards, but has anyone made simulation with [E+/this soft]?
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> Could you give me advices, please...
>
> Best regards
>
> B.Cavallier
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> Emanuele Naboni
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