Thanks, Joe I shall look up some of those references. Mr. Ooi's test lab is in UNIMAS, Kuching, which is near the equator. I believe, the estimation formula is not so accurate, as shown in the graphs for Singapore. Dr. Li > To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > From: YJHuang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:16:07 -0800 > Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] diffuse solar > > There are a number of empirical models for splitting the total global > horizontal radiation into direct and diffuse components. A good place to > start looking is the book, "Solar Radiation and Daylight Models for the > Energy Efficient Design of Buildings (second edition)", by Tariq Muneer > in the UK. > > In the US, there are models by Liu and Jordan (1960), Erbs et al. > (1982), Reindel et al. (1990), and Perez et al. (1990), all described in > various issues of Solar Energy. In Japan, there are models by Watanabe > et al. (1983) and Udagawa and Kimura (1990). These are described in the > Transactions of the AIJ (Arch. Inst. of > Japan). Recently, a colleague of mine, ZHANG Qingyuan, and two other > Chinese researchers developed another model and tested it for various > Chinese locations > with good results. I have a copy of the paper, but don't know the > publication offhand. > > In my work, I'm most familiar with the Watanabe model, although I have > written code and tested several of the others. > > Joe Huang > > Joe Huang > White Box Technologies, Inc. > 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D > Moraga CA 94556 > (o) +925 388 0265 > (c) +510 928 2683 > yjhuang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.whiteboxtechnologies.com > > > YuanLu Li wrote: > > > > Hi, HuJia > > > > I have been following those mails. > > > > What Mr. Ooi wanted to do was to generate a special local weather file > > which matches the days when he conducted temperature and other > > measurements on his test building. > > > > He mdified the ODT of the IWEC weather file, with his measured ODT, > > the matching of the simulated temperatures in the room and the > > measured values are quite good, when the sun is not shining through > > the windows. > > > > We will try using the formulae in the weather converter and see what > > happens. > > > > > > > > Dr. Li > > > > > > To: EnergyPlus_Support@ yahoogroups. com > > From: hujia06@gmail. com > > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:17:21 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_ Support] diffuse solar > > > > Hi, Dr Li, > > I am also curious about how to get Direct Normal and Diffuse from > > Global and other variables. In EPlus, Direct Normal and Diffuse are > > used as input to calculate some other variable, including Direct and > > Diffuse illuminance from sun and sky, sky brightness and clearness. > > There are some experts in this field, as you can find from the email > > (subject:"weather file") I sent to this group on Jan 20. > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:17 PM, YuanLu Li <yli006@hotmail. com > > <mailto:yli006@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > > Hi, HuJia > > > > I noticed that you are very interested in finding the various > > fields in the weather file. > > > > My former student Mr. Ooi KB, in a PhD program now, is very > > interested in findint out how to use: > > > > *Global horizontal, HIR, Cloud cover, ODT and RH, *to get the > > Direct Normal and Diffused Horizontal fields in the EPW. > > > > He can get those five sets of data from the Kuching Met. Station > > for his work in East Malaysia. However, he does not know how to > > divide the Global into the Direct Normal and Diffused horizontal, > > which the EPlus use for simulation.. > > > > Dr. Li > > > > P.S. for Linda. Do you have any sub-routine in Fortran or any > > programming language, to generate these two missing fields in EPW. > > (Direct normal and Diffused Horizontal from *Global horizontal, > > HIR, Cloud cover, ODT and RH*) > > > > He passed on the sub-routine from ticket #2013 for me to solve his > > ground surface temperature calculation. [EnergyPlus #2013]: > > Basement outside surface temperatures. I am studying it and see > > whether all the data are available, to run it as a C++ program. > > > > What he really nead is the correct solar radiation level through > > the windows, so that the simulated and the measured room > > temperature can match. > > > > He tried measring the DIrect Normal using a Pyranometer. 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