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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Swimming Pool HVAC
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- Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Swimming Pool HVAC
- From: "Florent" <florentfabre@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:17:24 -0000
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For the thermal simulation of the actual swiming pool, I use an EMS code with the equation (1) of the ASHRAE Handbook HVAC Application 2007 chapter 4
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mário <m_neves32@...> wrote:
>
> Well first of all I think the problem should be devided into two sub-problems:
> 1 - The thermal simulation of the actual swiming pool;
> 2 - The simulation of the HVAC systems neaded to ensure confort inside the actual zone.
>
> In regards to the fist problem my idea is to use a tank heater obejct to simulate the actual pool inside a thermal zone since you can place one of these objects, inside a zone, and adjust the sensible energy loss to those of a real one. Another aspect is that with a tank object you can garantie the integration of the energy neaded to heat the water an account for water loss, that would corresponde to a certan water consumption. That latent loss into the zone would have to be introduced into the zone with another object.
>
> The second aspect of the probelm I don´t have a real idea about but there might be a change to use a HeatPump object...
>
> Best regardes
>
> MN
>
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "James V Dirkes II, PE" <jvd2pe@> wrote:
> >
> > It is an indoor swimming pool. I would love to hear your ideas, since I do
> > not have very many ideas about how to model this type of HVAC system.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Building Performance Team
> > James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
> > 1631 Acacia Drive NW
> > Grand Rapids, MI 49504
> > 616 450 8653
> >
> >
> >
> > From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mário
> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:14 PM
> > To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Swimming Pool HVAC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > I´am intressed in this idea are you thinking of an interior swiming pool?
> > I´ve got some ideas about this.
> >
> > MN
> >
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com> , "jvd2pe" <jvd2pe@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear E+ world,
> > >
> > > Has anyone modeled one of the specialty pool HVAC air handlers which use
> > hot gas from the DX cooling coil for reheat?
> > >
> > > Willing to share your approach? or even better, a working .idf of the HVAC
> > components?
> > >
> >
>
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