Dear Mario,
I already had a plan for modeling the pool heater energy, but I
think your idea may be simpler to do. Thank you!
The part I have not figured out is the pool HVAC unit. This type
of equipment incorporates controls which send the refrigerant hot gas to a
reheat coil and sometimes also to the pool water heater, and therefore the
energy in the hot gas is put to good use instead of dumping it outdoors. That
is what I want to model!
The Building Performance Team
James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
1631 Acacia Drive NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49504
616 450 8653
From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mário
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:26 PM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Swimming Pool HVAC
Well first of all I think the problem should be devided into
two sub-problems:
1 - The thermal simulation of the actual swiming pool;
2 - The simulation of the HVAC systems neaded to ensure confort inside the
actual zone.
In regards to the fist problem my idea is to use a tank heater obejct to
simulate the actual pool inside a thermal zone since you can place one of these
objects, inside a zone, and adjust the sensible energy loss to those of a real
one. Another aspect is that with a tank object you can garantie the integration
of the energy neaded to heat the water an account for water loss, that would
corresponde to a certan water consumption. That latent loss into the zone would
have to be introduced into the zone with another object.
The second aspect of the probelm I don´t have a real idea about but there might
be a change to use a HeatPump object...
Best regardes
MN
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"James V Dirkes II, PE" <jvd2pe@...> wrote:
>
> It is an indoor swimming pool. I would love to hear your ideas, since I do
> not have very many ideas about how to model this type of HVAC system.
>
>
>
> The Building Performance Team
> James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
> 1631 Acacia Drive NW
> Grand Rapids, MI 49504
> 616 450 8653
>
>
>
> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mário
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:14 PM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Swimming Pool HVAC
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello
>
> I´am intressed in this idea are you thinking of an interior swiming pool?
> I´ve got some ideas about this.
>
> MN
>
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com> , "jvd2pe"
<jvd2pe@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear E+ world,
> >
> > Has anyone modeled one of the specialty pool HVAC air handlers which
use
> hot gas from the DX cooling coil for reheat?
> >
> > Willing to share your approach? or even better, a working .idf of the
HVAC
> components?
> >
>
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