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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] DX Cooling Coil warning





Mr. Raustad,

I tried using SetpointManager:SingleZone:Cooling after you suggested, but I don't seem to have any luck with that too. This is my input regarding the setpoint manager -

SetpointManager:SingleZone:Cooling,
    XYZ Cooling Control,  !- Name
    Temperature,             !- Control Variable
    12.8,                    !- Minimum Supply Air Temperature {C}
    99,                      !- Maximum Supply Air Temperature {C}
    XYZ,            !- Control Zone Name
    XYZ Zone Air Node,  !- Zone Node Name
    XYZ Zone Equip Inlet,  !- Zone Inlet Node Name
    XYZ HVAC Cooling Coil Outlet;  !- Setpoint Node or NodeList Name

But, the O/P I get with or without this SetpointManager gives me this error.

  ** Warning ** Coil:Cooling:DX:SingleSpeed "XYZ HVAC COOLING COIL" - Full load outlet air dry-bulb temperature < 2C. This indicates the possibility of coil frost/freeze. Outlet temperature = 1.66 C.
   **   ~~~   **  ...Occurrence info = RUN PERIOD, 04/10 11:07 - 11:08
   **   ~~~   ** ... Possible reasons for low outlet air dry-bulb temperatures are: This DX coil
   **   ~~~   **    1) may have a low inlet air dry-bulb temperature. Inlet air temperature = 17.712 C.
   **   ~~~   **    2) may have a low air flow rate per watt of cooling capacity. Check inputs.
   **   ~~~   **    3) is used as part of a HX assisted cooling coil which uses a high sensible effectiveness. Check inputs.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Vinay

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, <RRaustad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

Have you tried using a SetpointManager:SingleZone:Cooling to control
your cooling coil?



Quoting "James V Dirkes II, PE" <jvd2pe@xxxxxxx>:

> Dear Vinay,
>
>
>
> Standard 90.1 says you must model a heating and cooling system, but does not
> say that it must be operating continuously. Obviously, most cooling systems
> are OFF during cold weather; this is normal and expected. I suspect that
> cooling IS available via an economizer control.
>
>
>
> If, for some reason, you actually need to operate your DX system in the
> middle of the winter as sometimes is the case, I'm not sure what to do. I
> think, though, that you can adjust the coil curves to reflect the actual
> equipment's operation without causing a problem in E+.
>
>
>
> The Building Performance Team
> James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
> 1631 Acacia Drive NW
> Grand Rapids, MI 49504
> 616 450 8653
>
>
>
> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vinay Devanathan
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:54 PM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] DX Cooling Coil warning
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Dirkes,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> But, I have a question. According to Appendix G, should the system not be
> capable of providing heating and cooling throughout the year?
>
> Regards,
> Vinay
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:45 PM, James V Dirkes II, PE <jvd2pe@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Vinay,
>
>
>
> . A simple way to fix this is to assign an availability schedule to
> the cooling coil which is ON only during warmer months. For the coil below,
> I've used an "AlwaysOn" schedule, but you can create any schedule that you
> like, perhaps similar to the one I show at the bottom.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The Building Performance Team
> James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
> 1631 Acacia Drive NW
> Grand Rapids, MI 49504
> 616 450 8653
>
>
>
> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vinay Devanathan
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:24 PM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] DX Cooling Coil warning
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> How do I control a Dx:CoolingCoil from operating when the inlet air
> temperature required no cooling. In my case,
>
> Full load outlet air dry-bulb temperature < 2C. This indicates the
> possibility of coil frost/freeze. Outlet temperature = 1.90 C.
> ** ~~~ ** ...Occurrence info = RUN PERIOD, 01/16 11:24 - 11:26
> ** ~~~ ** ... Possible reasons for low outlet air dry-bulb
> temperatures are: This DX coil
> ** ~~~ ** 1) may have a low inlet air dry-bulb temperature. Inlet
> air temperature = 16.946 C.
> ** ~~~ ** 2) may have a low air flow rate per watt of cooling
> capacity. Check inputs.
> ** ~~~ ** 3) is used as part of a HX assisted cooling coil which
> uses a high sensible effectiveness. Check inputs.
>
> this is what happens..
>
> I have a Setpoint Manager (Mixed Air) for the cooling coil outlet node. The
> reference setpoint for this is through Setpoint manager:Singlezone:Reheat.
>
> Could anyone please tell me what is wrong with this?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Regards,
> Vinay
>
>
>
>
>
>

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