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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: starting zone temperature





Hello, Lee

 

I suggest this trick.

 

Before Warm-up, call ProgramCallingmanager

EnergyManagementSystem:ProgramCallingManager,

myCalc3, !- Name

BeginNewEnvironment, !- EnergyPlus Model Calling Point

calc_warmup; !- Program Name 1

 

Set “flag=1” at the end of warm-up

EnergyManagementSystem:Program,

calc_warmup, !- Name

set flag=1; !- Program Line 1

 

After warmup call ProgramCallingmanager

EnergyManagementSystem:ProgramCallingManager,

myCalc4, !- Name

AfterNewEnvironmentWarmUpIsComplete, !- EnergyPlus Model Calling Point

calc_after_warmup; !- Program Name 1

 

Set “flag=0” at the beginning of warm-up

EnergyManagementSystem:Program,

calc_after_warmup, !- Name

set flag=0; !- Program Line 1

 

 

Finally, using flag mark and EMS if logic,

you can control the zone temperature for warm-up period and for run-period separately (see below example)

 

this example shows that a room temperature is fixed at 22 during warm-up but changed according to the control logic during run-period

 

EnergyManagementSystem:Program,

calc_bulb_controller, !- Name

if flag ==0, !- Program Line 1

if hour>=0 && hour <1, !- Program Line 2

if Minute >= 10 && Minute <= 50, !- A4

set my_switch=1, !- A5

set my_setpoint=50, !- A6

else, !- A7

set my_switch=0, !- A8

endif, !- A9

else, !- A10

set my_switch=0, !- A11

endif, !- A12

else, !- A13

set my_switch=1, !- A14

set my_setpoint=22, !- A15

endif; !- A16

 

 

I hope this help.

 

 

Best Regards, 
Deuk-Woo, Kim 
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Department of Architectural Engineering, College of Engineering, SungKyunKwan University, 
Suwon, 440-746, South Korea 
* Tel: +82-31-299-4774 

* E-mail: deukwookim@xxxxxxxx
* Homepage: http://bs.skku.ac.kr/

 

From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Linda Lawrie
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:55 AM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: starting zone temperature

 

 

No, and it wouldn't work because EnergyPlus wants to iterate on the load/temperature balance until it reaches a steady state of the heat balance of surfaces.

Is this an uncontrolled zone?  If so, it will be more difficult to match temperatures, but you can run a day and see what comes out -- then fine tune the parameters in the Building object to reach a finer resolution.

Likewise, if it is a controlled zone, you may need to fine tune those to make sure it reaches setpoint temperatures.

You may need to add infiltration amounts or carefully select internal heat gains to help you.


At 09:50 AM 1/17/2011, cleef_lee wrote:

Thanks for the reply.

In fact, what I am trying to do is to compare some simulation data with some real data,temperature wise and I want to ensure that the starting point for the simulation temperature matches the one in the real data.

So I was hoping to be able to define the initial temperature of my zone. Is that possible?

Thanks

Lee
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "James V Dirkes II, PE" <jim@...> wrote:
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> Dear Lee,
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> I��m not quite sure what you mean�
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> If you presume that your building is starting from a non-controlled temperature and that you must define it, donâ€�t worry.  E+ goes through a warmup process to stabilizee energy transfer and then begins the annual simulation.
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> Once the simulation begins, it keeps track of energy loss and gain for periods when the HVAC may be turned off so that the inside temperature is correct as HVAC starts again to bring the space to the desired setpoint.
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> I hope that helps�.
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> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lee Cleef
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:56 AM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] starting zone temperature
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>
>  
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> Hi,
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> Could anyone help me understand how I could define the starting temperature of a zone?
>

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> Thank you very much!!
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