Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] need help E+ in verify and modifying IDF

Thank you. I was basically lacking confidence since there was no one here to help me out. It feels a little better when someone who knows the software approves the work. So thank you so much.

So when you say for a start the model is correct, does this mean, that I can use this model to carry on my experiment or do you think I will need to add more details. Basically what I mean is, is this sufficient? I just need a single zone model to get the data. It is the data on which I need to work. I am carrying out a few experiments of my own to use this data in creating a new model and equations.

Also, now that I have realized that the PLR when say 0.43 for the first hour, it mean 43% of the first hour my HVAC is ON. Is there way where this can be shown as a part of the cycle itself. Say like 2 minute ON then next 3 minutes OFF and so on.

From: Richard Raustad <RRaustad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] need help E+ in verify and modifying IDF

The first part-load ratio I see is 0.43. This means that the AC ran 43% of the time. Or the load is 43% of the AC system capacity. So the unit is cycling on (43% of the time) and off (57% of the time). When the building loads get smaller, the PLR will be smaller. In summer, the PLR should approach 1 if you have the correct size system. Anything around 0.9 is about right.

Also change your reporting frequency to match the other report variables. Use Timestep instead of Hourly.

On 7/11/2011 1:50 PM, Aditya Ravi wrote:

Hello Mr.Richard,

I have attached the output excel file. Can you explain it to me. As in how this part load ratio is affecting the results and what is its significance.
From: Richard Raustad <RRaustad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] need help E+ in verify and modifying IDF
Add these report variables to your file. You should see them in the rdd file after a simulation. The PLR is the cycling that occurs when a cycling fan system operates to meet a load. The RTF is slightly greater than PLR and includes losses due to cycling (i.e., the system has to run a little longer to overcome cycling losses). the PLR is used when calculating loads and how long the system needs to operate to meet the load. The RTF is used to calculate power use.

Output:Variable,*,Packaged Terminal Air Conditioner Part-Load Ratio,Hourly;
Output:Variable,*,DX Cooling Coil Runtime Fraction,timestep;

On 7/11/2011 1:26 PM, Aditya Ravi wrote:

Hello,

I have attached an IDF,which I created few days back. I am a beginner with E+. I wanted to check if I have done it properly or not. There are no errors on running the simulation. There are a few warnings which come up since I have not used all day types, I think. However I assume that this does not affect my simulation results. Please go through and let me know if its correct.

Coming to what I want: I need to run a simulation for a 3 bedroom house. I assumed it to be under a single zone, since only one thermostat is to be used to regulate the temperature throughout the house. Firstly is this assumption correct?

Next, I have PTAC with electric heating coil. Is this enough for performing both heating and cooling? Also please look into the output. I find that during winter, at certain time of the day, cooling occurs which sounds not correct. Can you kindly explain why? Am I making a mistake in the scheduling?

Please verify my file and if changes are to be made, please help me out with it.

I had emailed earlier inquiring about this and got few replies. However I did not understand them very clearly. So here it is again: I need the HVAC to cut off on reaching the cooling or heating set point. In other words, I do not want the HVAC to be running continuously and trying to maintain the set point. Zone/room temp = set point, HVAC should turn off. Then once the room/zone temperature rises or falls by 1 deg C, I want the HVAC to once again kick ON to cool or heat the room. And I want the heating and cooling to be electric. This is what we normally observe in our houses. So basically, it will be a cycle of cooling in case of summer and a cycle of heating in winter. Can this be done in E+, if so, can you explain in detail how to do this. It will be really helpful, since I am working on my thesis based on this. In of the replies which i had got earlier, I was asked to look into the part load ratio and I was told that the HVAC operation is
dependent on the load and is not about reaching the set point. It makes sense and I agree speaking technically, but with this software, how do I get to the part load ratio?

Once again I request you to go through the IDF and verify if its correct and suggest modifications to improve it or in case its wrong help me correct it. Also please explain in detail on how to go about to achieve the HVAC operation like I have mentioned.

Sincerely,

Aditya
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University of Central Florida
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-- 
Richard A. Raustad
Senior Research Engineer
Florida Solar Energy Center
University of Central Florida
1679 Clearlake Road
Cocoa, FL  32922-5703
Phone:   (321) 638-1454
Fax:     (321) 638-1439 or 1010
Visit our web site at: http://www.fsec.ucf.edu

UCF - From Promise to Prominence: Celebrating 40 Years