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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Demand Ventilation Control and Enthalpy Wheel





If you want to ignore the warnings and run HeatExchanger:AirToAir:SensibleAndLatent outside of the approved range, then it is important to input the same effectiveness values at 75% and 100% flow.  Those values create a linear model for effectiveness vs. flow and it can easily be the case that out-of-range flows produce nonsense effectiveness values.  You need a flat, or at least very shallow, slope for that linear model and setting the effectiveness values to be the same at 75% and 100% does that.   

 

From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean marais
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 2:21 PM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Demand Ventilation Control and Enthalpy Wheel

 

 


So what happens currently when the bounds are exceeded? Does the wheel turn off? I could live with that.

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Richard Raustad <RRaustad@...> wrote:
>
> This issue has come up many times in the past. The manufacturer cannot
> guaranteethe ratings of the HX when the flow rate ratio is <50% or >130%
> of design. It's as simple as that. And there was no guidance of what to
> do inside the model when the air flow ratio was out of bounds since even
> the manufacturer could not tell us. If you want to use this HX model,
> keep the air flow ratio within the boundaries of where the model is
> valid. Otherwise, change to a flat plate HX (no latent heat transfer).
>
> On 11/1/2011 4:04 PM, Jean marais wrote:
> >
> > Had exactly the same issue doing exactly the same thing for the summer
> > case. I don't know any way to suppress warnings. Obviously, the amount
> > of heat exchange at the enthalpy wheel reduces to very small amounts
> > when the flow from exhaust is <50% the supply side. It seemed as if
> > the wheel stopped working, when I watched the outputs, but I actually
> > have no idea how the object is programmed to react in these
> > conditions. PS in the project I was simulating, an evapourative cooler
> > was cooling the

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