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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: DOE commercial reference building file open error in EPlus 7.1



I do not think it is necessary to up-date those ref. building  files.  Hardly anybody uses all of them.  

The set in the EPlus exampleFiles folder is good enough  for most.
 
New OpenStudio has another set in their release.
 
The building models do not have the best energy saving features, to minimize the use of  HVAC..
 
Dr. Li  

 
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:43:10 -0600
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: DOE commercial reference building file open error in EPlus 7.1

 
Conversion from one EnergyPlus version to another is one thing.  Updating (i.e. correcting problems that may have been in the files originally or taking advantage of other changes) is a different story.

Conversion is simple.  Updating is not.

At 10:32 AM 8/9/2012, Jeremiah Crossett wrote:


Thanks Brent-
Actually I received a call from someone at NREL who said that though it was not funded, someone would do it on their time- basically he said that he was calling to let me know someone was working on it-

The process of transitioning versions of the buildings library should not be something each user has to do each time, rather if the models where just updated once per year by one person it would be easier for everyone.

Thanks NREL- we look forward to the update:)



Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions
120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
 www.phasechange.com
 

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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Griffith, Brent <brent.griffith@xxxxxxxx > wrote:
 

Unfortunately, there are no keepers;  DOE stopped funding the reference buildings project a couple years ago. 

 

From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeremiah Crossett
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:48 AM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Benchmark; Williams, Jeremiah (HQ); Carey, Kym (HQ); william.chvala@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: DOE commercial reference building file open error in EPlus 7.1

 

 

Dear, Commercial reference building keepers at the national renewable laboratory & keepers of the 90.1 Prototype models at the pacific north west laboratories/USDOE building codes division.

 

Could you do us modelers a favor>? Could you update the commercial reference buildings from their current version 5 to version 7.1? And the 90.1 prototype building models from version 6 to version 7.1?

 

 The Energy Plus helpdesk site>Downloads>Converting older versions files>Download zip file>Create text file using Ep launch to select all files>convert to V6> Convert to V7 process is cumbersome and makes the idea of using these files feel like work in its self. The current version updater that comes packed with Energy Plus 7.1 will not convert from version 5 to 7.1 so the downloading of items is just a bit confusing/time consuming and is a deterrent for users to get started... One of the best uses of these reference buildings is to for new Energy Plus users to be able to use and experiment with, but new users may not find the transition process to be user friendly.

 

The use of the reference buildings, and the prototype baseline buildings found at the links below should be a easy to use asset, but because they are not updated in unison with Energy Plus they are not being put to use as they would be if they where maintained.
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/reference_buildings.html
http://www.energycodes.gov/commercial/901models/
The subject of these models has came up several times this year on the Energy Plus support forum, so I have taken it upon my self to send this formal request on the behalf of the Energy Plus modeling community to request that the files are updated to version 7.1 and re-updated when each release of Energy Plus is issued.

 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions

120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951


 

 

 

 

 

 



On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:16 AM, abakshiyrgxyz <abakshiyrgxyz@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:

 


When I select one of the commercial reference buildings in the "IDFVersionUpdater" it provides the error message:

"No approriate TransitionV-x-x-to-V-x-x.exe files found. They may need to be downloaded from

http://www.energyplus.gov

click on Add-Ons and look for the link to download the Transition programs."

However, no upgrade to the utility can be found on the EnergyPlus website.

AB



--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@...> wrote:
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> The files are in an older version of E+, you will have to update using the
> version update utility included with e+.. The only issue is if you want to
> update the entire collection- this can be done but you need a text file
> with full file paths for all of the files, and this would take a while- it
> would be nice if you could just point the version update utility at a file
> directory and then it would just update the whole lot- Anyhow you could
> also just open in Ep launch and choose the version update option -- so
> >file>transition version-- then you will have a new version and an old
> version of the same file.
>
> Best regards-

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> www.phasechange.com

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> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:00 PM, abakshiyrgxyz <abakshiyrgxyz@...>wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > My first post to this group. I have downloaded the commercial reference
> > buildings from:
> > http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/reference_buildings.html
> >
> > I am opening them in IDF Editor for EPlus 7.1 and receive the following
> > errors:
> >
> > Too many fields for object: Line number ...
> > This error may be caused by a missing semi-colon at the end of an object.
> > ..."
> >
> > I thought the reference buildings were supposed to be error-free!
> > Or I may be experiencing some serious operator error.
> >
> > Please let me know if you are familiar with this error. Thank you!
> >
> > AB
> >
> >
> >
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