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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: RunSlab Program
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- Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: RunSlab Program
- From: "energy.partners" <energy.partners@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 01:19:57 -0000
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Thanks. I have submitted the idf to the helpdesk.
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@...> wrote:
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> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:54 PM, energy.partners
> <energy.partners@...>wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have uploaded the .idf file to "Files > _Problem_Submittals"
> > The .idf is called "SA0.7-Baseline-Concrete.idf"
> >
> > Is it the correct location to submit files to the helpdesk?
> >
> > The weather file I used is:
> > AUS_NSW.Richmond.RAAF.957530_RMY.epw
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Linda Lawrie <linda@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please submit the file to the helpdesk and indicate what weather file
> > > you were using.
> > >
> > > At 06:04 PM 8/26/2012, energy.partners wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I have uploaded the .idf to "Files > _Problem_Submittals" . The name
> > > >of the .idf is " SA0.7-Baseline-Concrete.idf "
> > > >
> > > >Would you help me on this issue please?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Linda Lawrie <linda@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Your slab program did not run due to that error and therefore, the
> > > > > program does not contain the slab temperatures.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can submit the input file to the helpdesk.
> > > > >
> > > > > At 01:04 AM 8/24/2012, energy.partners wrote:
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have run the idf using the regular EP-Launch and I got the
> > > > > >following severe error message:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >** Severe ** Output:PreprocessorMessage="GroundTempCalc - Slab" has
> > > > > >the following Severe condition:
> > > > > > ** ~~~ ** The calculated ground temperature exceeds -100
> > > > C [-104.07 C]
> > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The idf has the complete set up of the building model and it runs
> > > > > >fine before setting the GroundHeatTransfer objects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Does anyone know the cause of this error?
> > > > > >Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "energy.partners"
> > > > > ><energy.partners@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Linda,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will try again in regular EP-Launch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Linda Lawrie <linda@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You need to run your IDF in the Regular EP-Launch / EnergyPlus
> > > > > > > > stream. It will automatically call the Slab program.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When you run just the Utility Slab program, you have a
> > companion (but
> > > > > > > > different) set of objects.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At 12:58 AM 8/23/2012, energy.partners wrote:
> > > > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Thanks for your reply.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I am using an idf that has a completed set up of a building
> > model
> > > > > > > > >which simulate fine using EP launch. But after setting the
> > > > > > > > >GroundHeatTransfer objects and run with the RunSlab program
> > (using
> > > > > > > > >the same weather file) then I got the problems I described
> > below.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Regards.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Niraj Poudel
> > > > > > <nirajpdl@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think the way it works is that you set up your
> > > > complete IDF (i.e
> > > > > > > > > > including your building, heat balance algorithm, simulation
> > > > > > control etc,
> > > > > > > > > > basically your complete model) along with the
> > > > > > GroundHeatTransfer objects.
> > > > > > > > > > What happens is that when you run your idf, the slab
> > > > > > program is called upon
> > > > > > > > > > and the building surface temperatures are automatically
> > > > > > filled into the
> > > > > > > > > > respective location in the idf. This is if you are trying
> > > > > > to invoke the
> > > > > > > > > > slab program directly using the .idf editor.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Otherwise you can run the basement slab pre processor
> > > > > > separately without
> > > > > > > > > > defining everything in the .idf file. This way you can get
> > > > > > the results for
> > > > > > > > > > your building surface temperature but then you will have to
> > > > > > manually input
> > > > > > > > > > the results into your idf.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Niraj
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:12 AM, energy.partners
> > > > > > > > > > <energy.partners@>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I want to use the RunSlab program to calculate the slab
> > > > > > temperature.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have set up the following E+ objects in my building
> > > > model IDF:
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Control with Run Slab
> > > > Preprocessor as "Yes"
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Slab:Materials
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Slab:MatlProps
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Slab:BoundConds
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Slab:BldgProps
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Slab:Insulation
> > > > > > > > > > > - GroundHeatTransfer:Slab:EquivalentSlab
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have followed the AuxiliaryPrograms.pdf and ran the
> > > > > > RunSlab program but
> > > > > > > > > > > it didn't complete successfully. In the error file (the
> > > > > > _slab.ger file)
> > > > > > > > > > > there are a lot of severe error messages. I have
> > > > > > extracted the first 20
> > > > > > > > > > > lines from the error file:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----------------Start of the error
> > file------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Program Version,GroundTempCalc - Slab, Version .75
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~12 Did not find "Version" in
> > > > > > list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~18 Did not find
> > > > > > "SimulationControl" in list of
> > > > > > > > > > > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~28 Did not find "Building" in
> > > > > > list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~41 Did not find
> > > > > > "ShadowCalculation" in list of
> > > > > > > > > > > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~50 Did not find
> > > > > > > > > > > "SurfaceConvectionAlgorithm:Inside" in list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~56 Did not find
> > > > > > > > > > > "SurfaceConvectionAlgorithm:Outside" in list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~62 Did not find
> > > > > > "HeatBalanceAlgorithm" in list
> > > > > > > > > > > of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~69 Did not find
> > > > > > > > > > > "ZoneCapacitanceMultiplier:ResearchSpecial" in list of
> > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~77 Did not find "Timestep" in
> > > > > > list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~83 Did not find
> > > > > > "ConvergenceLimits" in list of
> > > > > > > > > > > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~91 Did not find "Site:Location"
> > > > > > in list of
> > > > > > > > > > > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~101 Did not find
> > > > > > "SizingPeriod:WeatherFileDays"
> > > > > > > > > > > in list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~114 Did not find "RunPeriod" in
> > > > > > list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~131 Did not find
> > > > > > > > > > > "RunPeriodControl:DaylightSavingTime" in list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~138 Did not find
> > > > > > > > > > > "Site:GroundTemperature:BuildingSurface" in list of
> > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~155 Did not find
> > > > > > "Site:GroundReflectance" in
> > > > > > > > > > > list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~172 Did not find
> > > > > > > > > > > "Site:GroundReflectance:SnowModifier" in list of Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~180 Did not find
> > "ScheduleTypeLimits"
> > > > > > > > > in list of
> > > > > > > > > > > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ** Severe ** IP: IDF line~183 Did not find
> > "ScheduleTypeLimits"
> > > > > > > > > in list of
> > > > > > > > > > > Objects
> > > > > > > > > > > ----------End of first 20 line of the error
> > file----------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Did anyone get the same problem before? Could anyone give
> > > > > > me some advice
> > > > > > > > > > > please?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > (Note I am using E+ version 7.0.0.36)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Niraj Poudel, Architectural Engineer.
> > > > > > > > > > PhD student, PDBE Program.
> > > > > > > > > > Clemson University, Clemson, SC.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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