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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Cost in Output:Meter or Output:Variable
Yeah that is kind of what I was thinking about. I do a lot of controls work and one of my goals is to try to get more familiar with ERL.
It seems ridiculous to me that you can report greenhouse gas emissions but not cost.
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jim Dirkes <jim@...> wrote:
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> Not that I've done anything substantial in EMS, but I recall that you can create custom variables and can also report them. Perhaps a custom variable could be created which mimics the cost by using the proper tariffs...
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> James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
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> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ntraughpee
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:06 PM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Cost in Output:Meter or Output:Variable
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> Anybody think there is a workaround for this where you could create a custom meter or something a long those lines?
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> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>, "ntraughpee" <matthew.sverre.anderson@<mailto:matthew.sverre.anderson@>> wrote:
> >
> > Well E+ can output hourly consumption in energy and if I know the energy type consumed per hour I figured that I would be able to see the $/hr consumed.
> >
> > One of the major reasons why I would like something like this is that I am experimenting with using the EMS objects and there are recurring situations where minimizing energy consumed does not minimize cost. For instance a real world application is as follows:
> >
> > I have written a multizone/dual duct air handler mixed air temperature setpoint reset control block (in real life, not in E+) which determines the operating cost of the air handler and then determines the operating cost with a higher MaTp and a lower MaTp then changes the setpoint to minimize cost. Due to the fact that we pay much more for heating than cooling during a lot of the "nice" months we are economically forced to consume more energy by using our cooling coils than by using the "free cooling" of the outdoor air.
> >
> > Also, in the results viewer it can only display metric units while I work in english and it would be easier to have it display $ values for quick reference instead of me trying to do a bunch of mental gymnastics to compare the two.
> >
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>, Jim Dirkes <jim@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Matthew,
> > > What do you expect an Output:Variable or Meter to do that is not done in the Report?
> > >
> > > James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
> > > www.buildingperformanceteam.com<http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>
> > > Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
> > > 1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
> > > 616 450 8653
> > >
> > > From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of ntraughpee
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:04 AM
> > > To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Cost in Output:Meter or Output:Variable
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > So I have added a UtilityCost:Tariff and UtilityCostCharge:Simple and in the HTML output I can see the cost and by applying the per unit energy charges to the CSV output of the monthly totals I can see that the costs indicated in the HTML output are correct.
> > >
> > > Right now I am looking for an Output:Meter or Output:Variable so I can see what the operating cost is for a building in terms of $. I spent a little time and couldn't find this, does it exist and if it does, where is it?
> > >
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