I think that if you receive every email from this group you'll have received his message with the spreadsheet attached. If you receive the daily digest email, as I do, then you don't receive attachments. If I'm not wrong, in the near past you could get the attachments from the group website, but now you just see a rectangular at the messages end with the attachment name in it (no link). So, if you want James' spreadsheet you'll have to ask him.
Rui
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Maxime Bourdiol wrote: > > oh, allright, my mistake then. > > Sorry about that. > > take care > > > 2013/7/16 Chien Si Harriman chien.harriman@... > > > ** > > > > > > That is way more than two cents worth Rui! > > > > I ended up finding a research paper funded by the DoE that claims the > > ASHRAE equation overestimates evaporation loss by about 25%. They only had > > one experimental data set to make this claim though. > > > > My general feeling after doing all the research was that you just have to > > find a model and go with it. So many variables to predict, the best we can > > do is make the closest prediction of these variable estimates and go. > > > > From there, just engineer the system well. > > > > What I didn't find appropriate about shah's work for my calculation of an > > outdoor pool's heat loss, is it seems to be most applicable to indoor > > pools? That is something I an not sure about. Can his work be used for > > outdoor pool calculations? I agree that his work is the most comprehensive > > though, by far. > > > > Maxime, I don't have a sheet I have a python script. I don't know if this > > is what you mean. It isn't a spreadsheet. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:12 AM, "Rui" ruiigreja@... wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Here are my 2 cents to the discussion: > > > > - This work by Randy Jones has no references to Shah's works because it's > > from 1994, previous to most of Shah's works dealing with evaporation from > > swimming pools. Jones' article is also available on the the Solar Energy > > journal: > > > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0038092X94905975 (but > > here Charles Smith is the main author). > > > > - As far as I know there are two more papers by Smith and Jones on > > evaporation from swimming pools: Energy Requirements and Potential > > Savings for Heated Indoor Swimming Pools (1993) and Rates > > of Evaporation from Swimming Pools in Active Use (1998) > > . > > > > - There are various works on evaporation from very different water > > surfaces: small tanks, swimming pools, big reservoirs or lakes, etc; some > > deal with occupied swimming pools where it seems evaporation can be 2-3 > > times higher than when they are unoccupied; some deal with evaporation > > caused by natural convection, some by forced convection, some by mixed > > convection, some don't even mention it! > > The prediction of the evaporation rate