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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] EnergyPlus suitability for use in my postgrad project




:-) It wasn't my email implying he could do it all because he had a CompSc background. 
Actually, that's part of the reason for recommending TrnSys. It's GUI is far easier to use for controls logic and it's easier to set up a basic building. The support and example database is however lacking. Perhaps the best way forward is to use an existing example file and indeed use EMS. I just found it likely that he's already got something programed in say c++ and you can't simply link this in e+ (or can you). TrnSys links with external programs like COMIS, so perhaps it is easier. I've never looked at the virtual testbed stuff, but from memory e+ should also somehow be link-able to external programs. And properly setting up hydronic heating systems is tricky with e+. Difficalt question.

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On 02.06.2014, at 23:23, "Jim Dirkes <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> Good thing James is a Computer Science graduate or heâ??d have his hands full.  Actually, heâ??ll still have his hands full!

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> James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
> <http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>> www.buildingperformanceteam.com
> Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
> 1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
> 616 450 8653

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> Difficalt question. If I were to do this in e+, I would write my controls using the EMS objects. EnergyPlus is not so "external link" friendly, so I would keep it all within the energyplus environment.

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> Perhaps consider TrnSys. It's more for custom controls, hydronic heating and the building model (although not quite as amazing as e+) is good enough and really just a "latch on" object. If you have an Intel Fortran compiler, you could even tweek or write your own componants. In fact, I would go as far as to recommend it in your case. However, it also has quite a learning curve.

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> It's not free. :-(

> Mit freundlichen GrüÃ?en- Sent from my iPhone (excuse the brevity)

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> i. A.

> Jean Marais

> b.i.g. bechtold

> Tel.   +49 30 6706662-23

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> On 01.06.2014, at 14:15, "<mailto:jamdroid09@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jamdroid09@xxxxxxxxx>jamdroid09@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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>> Hi,

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>> I am a Computer Science post-graduate doing a project to investigate the potential energy savings of a smart thermostat that predicts occupancy in a home. Before I invest too much time learning EnergyPlus I wanted to check that this is the best tool to use for my needs.

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>> Basically what I want the tool to do is build a simple model of a typical UK home using a hot water space heating system (e.g. a condensing boiler). I then need to use an API to link this model (specifically turning heating on/off command) to my own model (for home occupancy predication). My model will be based on several sensors around the home with a controller unit to detect when occupants are asleep / away etc. and regulate the heating accordingly.

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>> The purpose of the model I will develop is to test occupancy prediction algorithm(s) against other thermostat types (e.g. programmable). There will be various metrics to test algorithm effectiveness so accuracy of the home model is not the upmost concern.

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>> The above is a short summary of what I plan to do so my questions are:

>> -Should I use EnergyPlus directly? I had a look at software using EnergyPlus at <http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/tools_directory><http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/tools_directory>http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/tools_directory, but after spending the best part of a day looking through the free tools I think I may be better off avoiding their extra layers of complexity.

>> -Is there any software out there which is more appropriate or perhaps easier to learn in a short timescale?

>> -Are there any simple home model examples that I can look at?

>> Any other advice would be appreciated.

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>> Thank you for your help,

>> James

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