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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] New Feature Request - "Return Air Fraction" and "Exhaust Air Fraction" for Internal Loads?





Lighting doesn't produce moisture, else it would work.

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On 27.04.2015, at 23:26, "Jason Quinn jason.e.quinn@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Couldn't you just model the kitchen equipment as lighting? i.e. set the power equal. Then you could specify the fraction. I know the meters would be wonky but custom meters are pretty easy to do.

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Karen Walkerman kwalkerman@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

Awesome! I'll do that.

On Apr 25, 2015 8:55 AM, "Linda Lawrie linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

I believe you can enter a new feature request directly into the github system for EnergyPlus.

At 09:36 AM 4/24/2015, Karen Walkerman kwalkerman@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] wrote:


I'm currently modeling a few buildings where the design team wants to explore the effectiveness of heat recovery on kitchen exhaust hoods.

In the DOE Commercial Reference Buildings, kitchen cooking equipment - 70% of the energy is modeled as "lost." Ã? Some of this energy is truly "lost" to the food being cooked, but much of it is captured and exhausted by hoods.Ã?  It is not mixed with the zone, but in the model, it is captured by a system and should be modeled as such.

When modeling lights and refrigeration equipment, we are given the option to specify a "return air fraction" - a portion of the heat that is transferred directly to the zone return air.Ã?  It would be awesome if this option were added to the following objects:

ElectricEquipment
GasEquipment
SteamEquipment
HotWaterEquipment
OtherEquipment

It would also be great to have an "Exhaust Air Fraction" option - so that some of the heat generated could be assigned directly to the exhaust air node.

While the need to model kitchen exhaust heat recovery illuminates the limitation within EnergyPlus, it is a limitation in accurately modeling kitchen energy use even without heat recovery.

Thanks!

Karen





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