RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Future of EnergyPlus

As much as I like hanging out with Jim whenever possible, it is now the new people we respond to that keeps me involved in activity here. I typically go direct to the source anyway when I have an E+ issue and not here. We should abandon a restricted site.

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From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 7:15 AM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Future of EnergyPlus_Support Mailing List

Jason,

I like the idea of everyone gathering around the same coffee pot (so to speak), ie, Unmet Hours. A common gathering place for everyone who works in the modeling space seems very "efficient".

I haven't used Unmet Hours to it's full extent, but am not sure if images or files can be attached to a post. Those are occasionally very helpful to explain issues of greater complexity or nuance.

Thanks for asking! Thanks for moderating these many years!

James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, BCxP

Team Lead - Building Performance

616 450 8653

Foresight Management

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Coffee Conversation:

We live in an ideological time that proudly assures us that no answers can be given, but there is only power and exploitation and contingency. No proposition is more questionable or less questioned than this.

But it is not true that there are no answers. What is true is that there are many answers we are not prepared to recognize because we have not formulated the proper questions. What is true, and consequently ominous, is that we can choose not to question because we do not want to hear the answer. We do not want to change our lives. And as Plato said, a lie in the soul is the worst of evils.

From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Jason Glazer jglazer@xxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 11:16 AM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Future of EnergyPlus_Support Mailing List

EnergyPlus_Support Mailing List Members:

You probably have seen a number of emails from Yahoo about the changes they are making to the Yahoo Groups mailing lists (see the forwarded message below if you haven't). So at this point we would like your feedback on what direction to go with the EnergyPlus_Support mailing list. It seems like we have a number of options:

leave as is (limping along as "restricted" list with no online content and difficult for new subscribers)
move to onebuilding.org (like BLDG-SIM and eQUEST-users with attachments but no online content)
move to groups.io (similar to Yahoo but costly)
another mailing list service or forum
end the group (just use unmethours)

Please let us know what your recommendation are and if you have other suggestions.

Thanks

Jason

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Subject:	Next Steps: The Evolution of Yahoo Groups (Final Notification)
Date:	Tue, 10 Dec 2019 13:16:31 +0000
From:	Yahoo <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To:	noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <noreply-HP2v40000016eeff43967a5e41e6e966eb1e0069@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Yahoo!

Dear Group Moderators and Members,

Last month we notified you of the changes coming to Yahoo Groups that better align with user habits, and today we are providing an update to guide you through the next steps of the transition. Yahoo Groups is not going away - but we are making adjustments to ultimately serve you better. We are amazed at the vibrant community you’ve created through Yahoo Groups and we want to make sure you feel supported as we introduce these changes.

The following changes were made since our last communication:

   •   Users can now only join a Yahoo Group through an invite or group request approval by the Group Moderator.
   •   New Groups can’t be public. They can only be private (not listed in Groups directory, membership by invitation only) or restricted (listed in Groups directory, membership requests must be approved by a Group Moderator).
   •   Members must share all content via email, and can no longer upload or host new content on the Yahoo Groups website itself.

The following changes will be made on December 14, 2019:

   •   Public groups will no longer exist. All existing public Groups will become restricted Groups that require Group Moderator approval to join.
   •   Any content that was previously uploaded via the website will be removed.

If you would like to keep any of the content you’ve posted or stored within your Yahoo Group, please download it by December 14 by accessing the Groups Download Manager at this link. Once you provide your preferred email address, we will send you a confirmation of your download request and notify you once the download is complete.

You will receive a link to a downloadable zip file via email for each of your Groups organized into a separate folder. Download time varies depending on the amount of information and file size.

If your download request is made by 11:59pm PST on Saturday, December 14, 2019, your content will not be deleted until your download is complete. We are unable to accommodate any download requests made after this deadline.

This is the final reminder to download your content. You can find additional information about the upcoming changes here.

We have worked extensively with our customer support team to develop recommendations for tools that can help you with any download issues. See help article here.

We have watched the evolution of Yahoo Groups with awe, as we grew to a community of millions with over 10 million Groups. Every day, we witness the power of community and shared passions, and our mission is to provide a platform for the strong connections people make with each other around their interests.

We thank you for being part of the Yahoo Groups community and look forward to continuing to provide ways for you to connect with one another about your shared interests and passions.

Sincerely,
The Groups Team

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