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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Yahoo Groups is shutting down

Jason

Onebuilding and an Unmet Hours are based on code written in the previous email millennials and barely enhanced since. They work. And they were great in their day. But the apps look and feel really old timey - built by boomers.

I would certainly be happy with a move to Groups.io. If somebody is willing to do the work, Groups will allow for importing the history of all the Yahoo Group messages and the entire list of addresses. 

But if you want to attract a younger generation I would go with Discourse. Discourse is used by Ladybug Tools, Three.js and many others. See the customer list here:

https://www.discourse.org/customers

Discourse supports email really well and it's a great forum app with a lot of features. For example, here is a link to a post that embeds my interactive 3D Ladybug Tools / Spider IDF Viewer:

https://discourse.ladybug.tools/t/spider-idf-viewer-alpha-release/10062

In any case the main thing is not letting the membership list disappear and finding a way to enable ongoing dialog.

Theo


 



On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 9:38 AM Aaron Boranian aaron.boranian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

I would also vote for future questions being directed to Unmet Hours and use the 'energyplus' tag instead of a new email list serve. As Amir mentioned, you can make a list of "interesting tags" to subscribe to for email notifications, and then set up your desired email frequency in your Unmet Hours profile. This would help create a central resource for EnergyPlus users instead of having them review separate resources to resolve their issues.

I do also see great value in posting the archive of the Yahoo group for folks to review since it has been operating for a long time and has a wealth of information. Jason's idea to move the archive to onebuilding.org sounds like a great option.

Regards,

Aaron

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:26 AM 'Roth, Amir' amir.roth@xxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

If you like email, UnmetHours has email notification settings that allow you to use it like a listserv.

 

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I agree with Jim on UnMetHours, but I will have to engage with it more.  I would also say that you may have the 69 dedicated member responses.  Since the beginning of time there may be 5100 members, but I suspect many have fallen by the way side over the years?

 

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I'm (still) inclined to have a common place for modelers to share information and learn from each other. UnMetHours does that pretty well, so I don't think there needs to be a separate place. I like the fact that UMH has questions from people using several platforms. To some extent it clutters my inbox, but it also helps me measure the pulse of what other modelers are wrestling with, no matter the platform.

 

 

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Jean and other EnergyPlus_Support members,

Since the end of last year when Yahoo Groups announced reducing the features in their mailing lists (removing archives and making it more difficult to subscribe) we have been considering various options, none of them ideal.. I put together a survey in January with the results showed below:

 

To be honest, the low number of people that responded (69 of 5100) made it difficult to feel like the results were a consensus of the group. Now Yahoo Groups is completely shutting down all of their groups including this one on December 15 and a decision needs to be made. I have been considering many options but the following two are my recommendations:

Any opinions on this?

 

Should we have another survey?

 

I know there are a lot of other options also. I welcome a discussion on this.

 

Jason

 

On 10/23/2020 4:08 AM, 'Jean Marais' Marais.Jean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] wrote:

Hi Team,

 

Yahoo Groups is shutting down! To which website will the Forum migrate to?

 

Weâ??re shutting down the Yahoo Groups website on December 15, 2020 and members will no longer be able to send or receive emails from Yahoo Groups. Yahoo Mail features will continue to function as expected and there will be no changes to your Yahoo Mail account, emails, photos or other inbox content. There will also be no changes to other Yahoo properties or services. You can find more information about the Yahoo Groups shutdown and alternative service options on this help page.

 

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