[Equest-users] Warning: ECONO-LOW-LIMIT = *UNUSED*
Otto Schwieterman
oschwieterman at fhai.com
Thu Aug 26 12:00:48 PDT 2010
I would tweak it in the detailed edit mode because it is very unlikely
that you can get good results by simply using the wizard. There are too
many major variables that you cannot change in the wizard. You might as
well pick the cost/energy consumption via experience if you are not
going to go into the detailed edit mode.
If you simply need eQUEST to spit something out so you have results to
show I would ignore the econo-low-limit but remember that the results
mean nothing.
From: Adrian Gurga [mailto:gurga at illinois.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:38 PM
To: James Hansen
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Warning: ECONO-LOW-LIMIT = *UNUSED*
Excellent. Thanks James. And yes, it's up to us to figure out how to
use it, which I think qualifies as "no support". I'm sure the
programmers responsible for the software are perfectly competent, and I
did not mean to suggest otherwise. I suppose what I really meant to say
was that the software has no customer support, which is understandable
because it's free.
Now back to the model. So one would have to go into the detailed mode
in order to change this parameter? If one was to work with a model only
via the DD wizard as we sometimes do for order of magnitude estimates,
would it be OK to leave ecnono-low-limit unused? or would this result in
inaccurate results?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, James Hansen <JHANSEN at ghtltd.com>
wrote:
See below. Also, the technical support isn't "very poor", it's just
that the people working on technical issues are actually programmers.
It's up to us to figure out how to use it properly.
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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Gurga
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:13 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Warning: ECONO-LOW-LIMIT = *UNUSED*
Carol,
With all due respect, "Only to input the temperature and to look at your
help screen." is not a complete sentence. Please reply using English if
you'd like to post on a listserv. If you have advice on how to address
this warning, please provide it. Additionally, "Flaming" (
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flaming) is a behavior
typically reserved for prepubescents on chat forums, not professional
listservs. Please show some professional courtesy in your responses.
Now, let's move forward amicably and discuss the actual topic of the
post.
All,
We all know that as eQUEST is free software, it has very poor technical
support which is why listservs like this exist. Here is the research
I've done so far. Inputting a seach for "econo-low-limit" or even just
"econo" in the eQUEST helpfile produces no results. Are there "pull
down help menus" which discuss this topic as Carol suggests? If so,
please direct me to them. Googling "econo-low-limit" produces one
relevent hit other than this listserv, a user poses the same question I
have, but is issue is never resolved (
http://www.energymodelhelp.com/SMF/index.php?topic=107.0 ). A search of
"econo-low-limit" on this listserv will yield five results. In four of
these, "econo-low-limit" is simply listed as an input, in the fifth, it
is suggested as a way of manipulating the model. However, I cannot find
anywhere on this listserv where the warning "econo-low-limit" = unused
has been discussed. Therefore, I assume it's a reasonable to post and
and I hope it will be helpful to future users.
I can't figure out where to specify an econo-low-limit in the DD wizard,
if I need to go into the detailed edit to address this, please let me
know where that variable is edited. I have attempted to edit the files
manually in notepad to specify an econo-low-limit, so far have had no
luck, but truthfully I'm not too experienced with manual edits. If
anyone could provide some assistance with where to edit this parameter,
it would be appreciated. Alternatively, if this warning does not have
detrimental impact on the outputs, I will just ignore it.
Thanks for your thoughts and comments.
--
Adrian Gurga
Smart Energy Design Assistance Center
University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Carol Gardner <cmg750 at gmail.com>
wrote:
That was polite, Jason. Users of this list need to be responsible enough
to at least look at the pull down help menus before asking a question on
the listserv, It is impolite and wasteful of everyone's time to not do
so. I have sympathy for someone who is learning but if they really care
to learn this skill and be in the business they need to learn to at
least try to find the answers they need. Perhaps the college systems
have changed, which would be a shame, but when I was in school I had to
research and find my own answers. Since I'm older than dirt we didn't
have listservs, Google, or any of those useful tools that now make
finding answers so much easier.
I rest my case,
Carol
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Jason Glazer <jglazer at gard.com> wrote:
Carol,
The eQUEST-user mailing list is for users of all experience levels:
"The eQUEST-users mailing list is for everyone that uses the eQUEST
program. Users at every experience level are encouraged to join this
mailing list and share their questions and knowledge. Users of the
DOE-2.2 and D2Comply are also welcome. The mailing list will be a
user-to-user support forum for eQUEST, DOE-2.2, and D2Comply."
We appreciate your contribution but please either reply politely or not
at all.
Jason
On 8/26/2010 9:29 AM, Carol Gardner wrote:
Only to input the temperature and to look at your help screen.
This is
something you really should be able to figure out yourself. If
you can't
try another profession.
Carol
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Adrian Gurga <
gurga at illinois.edu
<mailto:gurga at illinois.edu>> wrote:
I am working with a model and am working with the following
warning
whenever it runs the BDL Load File Log
Line 1336: Warning Encountered:
INPUT-TYPE COEFFICIENTS ..
ECONO-LOW-LIMIT = *UNUSED*
Any ideas?
--
Adrian Gurga
Smart Energy Design Assistance Center
University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
www.sedac.org <http://www.sedac.org/>
(217) 244-4671
(800) 214-7954
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