[Equest-users] Internal Wall Problems with Wizard

[Robby Oylear]

Regarding the comment about not trusting eQUEST's snaps, I find it helps to
turn all snaps except "Polygon" off when defining zones.  Thus the only way
it's snapping is directly onto an existing vertex.  I use this every time
and don't have any issues with interior walls.

Omer-
I believe what you're experiencing is that when defined properly, eQUEST
only defines ONE interior wall.  Since an interior wall is used to define a
relationship between two spaces, there is only need for one wall.  The zone
that own's the wall is rather arbitrary, because either way they are linked
through the NEXT-TO command.  If two walls are created by eQUEST, it's
likely that they'll both be ADIABATIC and this is a symptom of not defining
the wall geometry correctly.  One wall per zone interface is what you
should be shooting for.

-Robby

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Ömer Moltay <omoltay at mimtarch.com> wrote:

>  Hi Robby,
>
> Thanks a lot. Learned something very important today.
>
> Another problem that I am having with internal walls: There are internal
> walls missing in some zones and I have no clue as to why. You will see
> these in the attached images as thin lines. The walls are missing from the
> selected zone (grayed), but the neighboring zone has walls in the same
> place.
>
> In 01.jpg, all three internal walls of the smaller zone are missing.
>
> In 02.jpg, some internal walls are missing and some are not.
>
> This floor has been recreated according to your advice with additional
> vertices.
>
> I think there is more to internal walls in Wizard that I do not know.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Ömer Moltay, LEED AP BD+C, ASHRAE BEMP, CPMP, BREEAM Assessor
> Mimta EcoYapi
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> 10.07.2012 18:52 tarihinde, Robby Oylear yazdı:
>
> Omer,
>
>  The simplest way to ensure that eQUEST defines the NEXT-TO property
> correctly is to make sure that each interior wall only interfaces with one
> other interior wall.
>
>  In the situation you describe where you have an interior wall that is
> adjacent to more than one zone, I would typically split that interior wall
> into two or three walls by adding vertices at each of the intersections
> between the zones and the interior wall that spans them.
>
>  Here's a sketch of what I'm describing:
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>  Hope that helps.
>
>   Robby Oylear, PE, LEED AP
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> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Ömer Moltay <omoltay at mimtarch.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have realized that while creating the model after Wizard entries,
>> eQuest will fail to determine the NEXT-TO property for interior walls that
>> are adjacent to more than one zone and all those interior walls will be
>> defined as ADIABATIC.
>>
>> Also, I see that interior walls are missing from zones where another zone
>> has an ADIABATIC wall in the same place.
>>
>> I see no way of having a model with all interior walls correctly defined
>> without fixing all these problems after the Wizard. Does everybody have the
>> same experience or am I missing something?
>>
>> Ömer Moltay, LEED AP BD+C, ASHRAE BEMP, CPMP, BREEAM Assessor
>> Mimta EcoYapi
>> Hekimsuyu Cad. 559. Sk. No:39
>> 34255 Kucukkoy Istanbul Turkey
>> Tel: 90-212-617-2296
>> Fax: 90-212-617-2297
>> www.ekoyapi.net
>> www.mimtasolar.com
>> www.mimtarch.com
>>
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