RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Need Help

Hi, Linda

Microsoft is up dating my PC every week with some automatic program updates. After the last VISTA release update, some 'frames' in the browser do not display correctly. The left, center, and left frame area became one long page.

The latest transistion program problem was probably introduced by the DOS window switch. VISTA does not allow pop up and new window open without admin permission. When the program is not running as adminstrator, the warning message does not show and the program hang.

Because I was running as an adminstrator, the DOS window switched from the Black to the gray one, and disconnected the link to the batch file, without notice. If the shortcut is made to the batch file, and not to the transition--.exe, I think the problem with 'Start in:' etc. may not exist.

I have window short cut icons pointing to other DOS batch files and have no problem. Normally, I double click a batch file to open the DOS window and execute the file at the same time.

With the EPlus batch files , I have added a 'pause' at the end, so that the DOS window does not exit automatically. If I use the DOS (short-cut) PIF, this is set in the option.

The pause let me look for any error messages during the execution phase.

I think, if you do not switch DOS windows, the problem will go away with VISTA.

Dr. Li.

To: EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com
From: linda@lawrie.com
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:40:53 -0700
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Need Help

I might be able to check for "read only".

If I don't do the "three name" transition, then I can't use the full batch file to go from early to late. Because they always start with "idf".

Since now both Mac and Linux developers are asking for transition programs, I may turn it all into Dos/command line implementation. I did it with V3 and EP-Launch but have not tried that version from the shortcut. I think I can make the short cut also "start in root" folder and may not have done that in previous installations.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Linda

At 12:06 PM 12/13/2008, Yuen Liu wrote:

Thanks, Linda for letting us know that the transition files are in the Files\Utilities.

I myself had no problems using the DOS batch files.

When someone tries to open the transition program using the Windows short-cut, the DOS window does not stay open, when the second gray window appears.

When I said that I was trying to write a batch file, I was trying to figure out, what we can pass to the DOS window at the Window short-cut target, so that the file name can be picked up and translated one at a time, without having to enter 'diff' 'full' 'yes' .. etc. and eventually the full file name.

I think, it is simpler just to ignor the Window shortcut and use the DOS batch file. Double click on the batch file will open the DOS window.

The three file name version is better, however, in VISTA PC, if the original .idf file is read-only, the DOS program may not be able to modify it to the new version, and no warnings sometimes. This may create more confusions for the .idf file, sometime new, sometime old depending on the attribute of the file. Creating new files are always allowed in VISTA, unless the directory is write protected.

The two file name transistion will always work with VISTA, because the original .idf file is not modified. May be you should leave it as it is. (old version) in .idf and (new version ) in .idfnew.

Dr. Li.

To: EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com
From: linda@lawrie.com
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:14:18 -0700
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Need Help

Actually, I have set it up so that the transition programs can all be in one folder and have made a couple of batch files to make the transition of a set of files (a list) or a single file very easy.

If you look under the Utilities folder in the files section:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EnergyPlus_Support/files/Utilities/

You will see a couple of big zip files called Transitions-Part1 and Transitions-Part2.
Further, the TransitionsReadme.txt file describes how to unzip and use the files.

For me, it's easiest to set up a list of files and pass that to the batch files. With this all idf, rvi and mvi files will be transitioned. And, in this fashion, idf (new one), idfnew (same as idf) and idfold will be built.

If you do a single interactive run of the transition program with a single file, you will get only idf (old file) and idfnew. (If that seems too confusing, I could change it to the above).

Linda

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