Julien, · There is a mix of open and closed cases · Compressors are external to the cases and condenser is outdoors · Waste heat is being captured from one of the systems · The other stores have a different mix of cases and it is not practical to measure comparable portions James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP From: Julien Marrec [mailto:julien.marrec@xxxxxxxxx] Hi Jim, When you say you have data from other stores but they are not identical, what do you mean? Isn't there a unit that is similar (or exactly the same) to those previously installed (reading your email I believe the replacements have already been made in your studied building) where you could strap a pulse meter for example for at least a couple of weeks? Best, -- LinkedIn (en) : www.linkedin.com/in/julienmarrec 2014/1/22 Jim Dirkes <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Dear Forum, I am modeling a supermarket which has made effort to install refrigerated casework that is more efficient than “normal” in three ways: • Casework lighting is LED instead of fluorescent • Evaporator fans use ECM motors and are demonstrably more efficient • The compressors have higher COP I did not realize that claiming savings from a “process” load also requires substantiation of the Baseline energy for the process load via comparison to several similar facilities or a published paper. I wish I knew that months ago! We have data from three other supermarkets owned by the same company, but these other examples are not identical. So far, all I can say is that: a) Manufacturer literature claims that LEDs used in their casework use ~ 65% less energy than fluorescent lights b) ECM fans use about 35% less energy in a manufacturer power comparison table c) The COP is better (I do not have detailed data yet) This strikes me as a fairly weak argument, so I am asking you for suggestions or published data to strengthen the argument. p.s., My last alternative is to ignore the process energy savings and make it the same for both models. I think the savings are substantial, however, and would rather find a way to claim them! "Attack me … rather than the path I follow and which I point to anyone who asks me where I think it lies. If I know the way home and am walking along it drunkenly, is it any less the right way because I am staggering side to side?" Leo Tolstoy
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