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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: "strange" autosize of Coil:Cooling:DX:SingleSpeed





During summer season in some systems there is no outdoor air (those spaces are unoccupied since June until September and the SummerDesignDay is 7/21). Nevertheless, as â??User Design Air Flow [m3/s]â?? the value that is imposed in DesignSpecification:OutdoorAir is considered also in â??zone coolingâ??, although I imposed a schedule that is zero during the summer season. I asked to the helpdesk and it seems that the calculations for minimum outdoor air do not look at the schedules in the DesignSpecification:OutdoorAir object.

Here an example:

 

DesignSpecification:OutdoorAir,

    0serviziopalestra:Spogliatoio1 Design Specification Outdoor Air Object,  !- Name

    Flow/Zone,               !- Outdoor Air Method

    0.009440,                !- Outdoor Air Flow per Person {m3/s-person}

    0.000000,                !- Outdoor Air Flow per Zone Floor Area {m3/s-m2}

    0.110000,                !- Outdoor Air Flow per Zone {m3/s}

    0.000000,                !- Outdoor Air Flow Air Changes per Hour {1/hr}

    occupazione aule;        !- Outdoor Air Flow Rate Fraction Schedule Name

 

The schedule is the following one:

 

Schedule:Compact,

    occupazione aule,        !- Name

    Fraction,                !- Schedule Type Limits Name

    Through: 1/15,           !- Field 1

    For: AllDays,            !- Field 2

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 3

    0,                       !- Field 4

    Through: 6/10,           !- Field 5

    For: Weekdays SummerDesignDay WinterDesignDay,  !- Field 6

    Until: 07:50,            !- Field 7

    0,                       !- Field 8

    Until: 16:10,            !- Field 9

    1,                       !- Field 10

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 11

    0,                       !- Field 12

    For: Saturday,           !- Field 13

    Until: 07:50,            !- Field 14

    0,                       !- Field 15

    Until: 12:20,            !- Field 16

    1,                       !- Field 17

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 18

    0,                       !- Field 19

    For: AllOtherDays,       !- Field 20

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 21

    0,                       !- Field 22

    Through: 9/10,           !- Field 23

    For: AllDays,            !- Field 24

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 25

    0,                       !- Field 26

    Through: 12/20,          !- Field 27

    For: Weekdays SummerDesignDay WinterDesignDay,  !- Field 28

    Until: 07:50,            !- Field 29

    0,                       !- Field 30

    Until: 16:10,            !- Field 31

    1,                       !- Field 32

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 33

    0,                       !- Field 34

    For: Saturday,           !- Field 35

    Until: 07:50,            !- Field 36

    0,                       !- Field 37

    Until: 12:20,            !- Field 38

    1,                       !- Field 39

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 40

    0,                       !- Field 41

    For: AllOtherDays,       !- Field 42

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 43

    0,                       !- Field 44

    Through: 12/31,          !- Field 45

    For: AllDays,            !- Field 46

    Until: 24:00,            !- Field 47

    0;                       !- Field 48

 

The cooling design day (SummerDesignDay) is 7/21. As you can see, on 7/21 the value of the schedule is 0.

Nevertheless, the â??User Design Air Flow [m3/s] â?? in â??Zone coolingâ?? for that zone is calculated equal to 0.110 m3/s (=Outdoor Air Flow per Zone in DesignSpecification:OutdoorAir, without considering the schedule).

 

Here an image from the html report: http://oi58.tinypic.com/rtg85f.jpg


Iâ??ll let you know if Iâ??ll find a solution with the help of the helpdesk.

Best Regards



---In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, <jeannieboef@...> wrote :

That is strange. If the sizing objects have correctly deturmined that the design flowrate for cooling is zero, then why would the coil capacity be non-zero.

And to achieve your off coil outlet air setpoint with the minimum outdoor air?Does it need non-zero capacity to achieve that? You probably have that at Setpoint-11C.

Mit freundlichen GrüÃ?en- Sent from my iPhone (excuse the brevity)

i. A.
Jean Marais
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Tel.   +49 30 6706662-23

On 07.12.2014, at 16:33, "fpasserini.tn@... [EnergyPlus_Support]" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

In Sizing:System the field "Type of Load to Size On" is "Sensible".

Regards

 


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