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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Night Purge



Dan:

Sorry.  I forgot about that restriction.  You are right, 
infiltration, mixing, cross mixing, and ventilation are ignored when 
the COMIS airflow option is active.  Perhaps a unit ventilator with 
appropriate control settings would accomplish your nighttime purge.

Mike


On 11 Feb 2003, at 8:28, Daniel Grunbaum wrote:

> Thanks Mike,
> 
> Does the VENTILATION command work when the COMIS link is used. I
> thought you could either use the simple ventilation model or the COMIS
> link but not both. I get the following warning when attempting to use
> VENTILATION with the COMIS link.
> 
> ** Warning ** The following lines are "Orphan Objects".  These objects
> are in the idf
>    **   ~~~   **  file but are never obtained by the simulation and
> therefore are NOT used.
>    **   ~~~   **  See InputOutputReference document for more details.
>    ************* Object=VENTILATION=11
> 
> Is there a way I can use VENTILATION in combination with COMIS so that
> I can be naturally ventilating during the days and using a night purge
> at night when appropriate to do so ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael J. Witte [mailto:mjwitte@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 3:27 AM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Night Purge
> 
> 
>   The VENTILATION command would be a good choice, because it gives you
>   the option to ventilate until the zone cools down to the selected
>   setpoint.  You can also control the indoor-outdoor temperature
>   difference at which the ventilation will operate.
> 
>   Regarding the interactions between COMIS and HVAC simualations.  The
>   two are fully interactive thermally, but they do not interact with
>   pressure.  In this application, and naturally-induced flows from the
>   COMIS objects would continue to flow during operation of
>   VENTILATION. Since the flow from the night purge system would likely
>   be so much greater than any naturally-induced flows, I do not think
>   this would cause a significant error.
> 
>   Sorry for the delayed response.
> 
>   Mike
> 
> 
>   On 3 Feb 2003, at 10:21, Linda Lawrie wrote:
> 
>   > At 12:37 AM 2/3/2003, Daniel Grunbaum wrote:
>   > >The
>   > >night purge would involve some sort of mechanical ventilation
>   system > >that would run throughout the night or when the
>   temperature inside > >reaches a certain point and the exterior
>   temperature drops to a > >certain point. Does anyone know the best
>   way to model this using > >Energy Plus. > > A simplistic approach to
>   this is to use the VENTILATION object in each > zone. > > I'm not
>   sure if COMIS also might be able to do something like this >
>   directly? > > > Linda > > EnergyPlus WebSite:
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