Dear Dr.Li ,
i dont undrestandt you said i was not using the DHW,
i use :
Schedule:Compact,
Sinks Flow Schedule, !- Name
Any Number, !- Schedule Type Limits Name
THROUGH: 12/31, !- Field 1
FOR: AllDays, !- Field 2
UNTIL: 1:00, 0.003, !- Field 4
UNTIL: 2:00, 0.001, !- Field 6
UNTIL: 3:00, 0, !- Field 8
UNTIL: 4:00, 0, !- Field 10
UNTIL: 5:00, 0.001, !- Field 12
UNTIL: 6:00,
0.028, !- Field 14
UNTIL: 7:00, 0.105, !- Field 16
UNTIL: 8:00, 0.1, !- Field 18
UNTIL: 9:00, 0.081, !- Field 20
UNTIL: 10:00, 0.059, !- Field 22
UNTIL: 11:00, 0.051, !- Field 24
UNTIL: 12:00, 0.037, !- Field 26
UNTIL: 13:00, 0.031, !- Field 28
UNTIL: 14:00, 0.026, !- Field 30
UNTIL: 15:00, 0.023, !- Field 32
UNTIL: 16:00, 0.033, !- Field 34
UNTIL: 17:00, 0.041, !- Field 36
UNTIL: 18:00, 0.063, !- Field 38
UNTIL: 19:00, 0.075, !- Field 40
UNTIL: 20:00, 0.066, !- Field 42
UNTIL: 21:00, 0.059, !- Field 44
UNTIL: 22:00, 0.046, !- Field 46
UNTIL: 23:00, 0.046, !- Field 48
UNTIL: 24:00, 0.025; !- Field 50
=========== ALL OBJECTS IN CLASS: WATERUSE:EQUIPMENT ===========
WaterUse:Equipment,
Sinks, !- Name
Sinks, !- End-Use Subcategory
0.000158, !- Peak Flow Rate {m3/s}
Sinks Flow Schedule, !- Flow Rate Fraction Schedule Name
Sinks and Showers Temp Schedule; !- Target Temperature Schedule Name
!- =========== ALL OBJECTS IN CLASS: WATERUSE:CONNECTIONS ===========
WaterUse:Connections, Domestic Hot Water, !- Name Domestic Hot Water Inlet Node, !- Inlet Node Name Domestic Hot Water Outlet Node, !- Outlet Node Name , !- Supply Water Storage Tank Name , !- Reclamation Water Storage Tank Name , !- Hot Water Supply Temperature Schedule Name
, !- Cold Water Supply Temperature Schedule Name NONE, !- Drain Water Heat Exchanger Type , !- Drain Water Heat Exchanger Destination , !- Drain Water Heat Exchanger U-Factor Times Area {W/K} Sinks; !- Water Use Equipment 1 Name
Schedule:Compact,
Sinks and Showers Temp Schedule, !- Name
Any Number, !- Schedule Type Limits Name
THROUGH: 12/31, !- Field 1
FOR: AllDays, !- Field 2
UNTIL: 24:00, 40.56; !- Field 4
with this input i think i used DHW , and also i put :
PlantEquipmentOperation:HeatingLoad,
DHW Control Scheme, !- Name
0, !- Load Range 1 Lower Limit {W}
90000, !- Load Range 1 Upper Limit {W}
DHW Plant Equipment; !- Range 1 Equipment List Name
PlantEquipmentOperation:HeatingLoad,
Central Boiler Only, !- Name
0, !- Load Range 1 Lower Limit {W}
90000, !- Load Range 1 Upper Limit {W}
heating plant; !- Range 1 Equipment List Name
Dr.Li can you say what does intermitent pump in energyplus?
the pump will run at its capacity if a load is sensed and will shut off if there is no load on loop ,
can you explain it please ?
From: YuanLu Li <yli006@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support <energyplus_support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
That was because you were not using the DHW, and you have 1 mega watt of furnace power. The boiler furnace does not control the HW pump. Dr. Li
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: t.t111ir@xxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:47:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
it is my experiment data , and i have HW pump off and boiler on
but in my result energyplus i dont have this state , HW pump never off
From: YuanLu Li <yli006@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support <energyplus_support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
All four states are on the spread sheet. Sorry. I means row 11 an row 12 of the spread sheet.. The year was 2010. Was it that long ago? Dr. Li
Boiler HW pump (Starting on row 9)
| 1 |
1 |
| 1 |
1 |
| 1 |
0 |
| 1 |
0 |
| 0 |
0
You missed out this state.
|
| 0 |
1 |
| 0 |
1 |
| 1 |
1 |
| 0 |
1 |
| 0 |
1 |
| 1 |
1 |
| 0 |
1 |
| 1 |
1 |
| 0 |
0 |
| 0 |
0 |
| 1 |
0 |
| 1 |
0 |
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: t.t111ir@xxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:41:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
excuse me i dont undrestand : on line 11 and 12 " what you mean ?
now in iran is 4:10 AM
From: YuanLu Li <yli006@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support <energyplus_support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 AM
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
On line 11 and 12. and more later on. Dr. Li
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: t.t111ir@xxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:32:04 +0000 Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
Dr.Li sorry for my mistake i dont see the result of HW pump off and boiler on ,
i dont undrestand why , ?
From: YuanLu Li <yli006@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support <energyplus_support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:55 AM
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
This is why you must not change names and create different names of the objects. "HW pump" is not the same as "pump" to me. I do not associate 3 and 4 with the spread sheet as they are only for two other variables. HW pump on and boiler off is a valid state, because the pump is not controlled by the boiler. The pump is on the supply side water loop, the boiler fire is on the heating tank source side, and is not in the water loop. Your statement on EPlus is not correct. Dr. Li
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: t.t111ir@xxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:57:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
From: YuanLu Li <yli006@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EnergyPlus_Support <energyplus_support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:14 AM
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
thanks for looking that
The data looked normal. You should have taken the temperature values at the same time. yes i take it but in the excel file that i send you there is nt,
You did not record the DHW pump on the spread sheet.
i recorded DHW pump , but in this file that i send you it is only HW pump HW pump off, boiler off not listed below,
i wrote wrong in number 3, sorry , it must be HW pump off ,boiler off there is on the spread sheet.
in my energyplus result i dont see number 4 case (HW pump on and boiler off ) i dont undrestand why?
) Hw pump off but boiler on (DHW is being heated)
2)Hw pump on and boiler on (Normal )
3)HW pump 0ff but boiler on (HW below set point, DHW not in use)
4)HW pump on and boiler off (Tank is hot enough for a while) i dont this case result ( HW pump on and boiler off ) in my energyplus result ,
This is an indication that you did not plan the experiment well, and do not record the actual condition on site. Instead of 0 and 1's on the spread sheet, you should combined the states and then list the meaning of each state. Two pumps and a boiler fire should give you 8 states.
yes you are right i have 8 states, but in the excel file that i sent you , there is only the result of HW pump and boiler
Some states may not be possible, and then your should try to explain them. Dr. Li
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: t.t111ir@xxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:58:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] availabilityManager:High temperaturTurnoff
please see the file that i attached :this is the real experiment data that i measured :
it shows some times all of below
1) Hw pump off but boiler on (DHW is being heated)
2)Hw pump on and boiler on (Normal )
3)pump 0ff but boiler on (HW below set point, DHW not in use)
4)pump on and boiler off (Tank is hot enough for a while)