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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: IMF files & EP Macro



Yi, 
Thank you for the response: 
The issue with the manual baseline is that I my goal is to simulate many weather files using jE+.net on the Amazon cloud using a simple research room I have created. (making a map of outputs)  Or I would like to be able to run a single building that takes 16 hours for each simulation in one "shot" and get the single simresults sheet without repeating the process with the separate baseline run. This is why I am looking for a way to have the single IMF call the 4 Q factors, and jE+ run the 4 M factors and rotations. So the goal is Q21*Q23*Q5*Q27*M27*M51*M91*M182*S*W*N*E+Baseline S+Baseline W+Baseline N+Baseline E...
Yes, you are right I meant to say I want to have 68 simulations, but am getting 128, so 64 extra. 

I guess I could just use multiple IDF's for each rather then IMF for my room study and manually simulate the baseline separate from IMF for full buildings. (unless their is a way to make it work from a single IMF for the 68 possibilities..

Thanks again and I may email you off the list about some issues I had with jE+.net ..







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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Linda Lawrie <linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

As I mentioned before, there is a small box on the group simulation box of EP-Launch.
(you have to get a ways in to see it).

EP-Launch is described in the Auxiliary Programs document.

The box says "number of times to repeat IMF simulations".  It sets up a counter so that you can to a test inside the imf file and would likely suit your purpose.  How that would work with JEPlus, I'm not sure.



At 12:05 AM 5/15/2012, CleanTech Analytics wrote:


Richard, thanks I did as you said and it worked, Linda Thanks for the example it was very useful, Jean thanks for the detailed explanation it was very helpful

Yi, thank you for the quick response, I was able to get jE+ Working, here is a visualisation I created of the days results: The only issue is the 128 jobs caused an extra 68 baselines to be simulated, and when using the finite difference algorithm with 60 time steps 68 duplicate baseline runs is not a desirable parametric..(see attached)

Now I am trying to figure out how to run this with a EP macro calling a baseline, rather then having an IMF and a separate baseline..

For instance could I use only one temperature enthalpy pair and set the specific heat at J/kg of an innate material in the PCM object? Or could I use a blank INP file and call it from the IMF for a baseline? Or is it possible to have a  ##do
not include material property phase change for one of the runs? The goal would be to have an IMF that calls the following inputs, Q21,Q23,Q25,Q27,baseline. With the goal of only rotating the baseline but not running the other jobs on it... I guess I could just do two separate runs, but would rather not...

I am asking because it seems like their may be a simple solution..

Again many thanks






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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Richard Raustad <RRaustad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

Change your file extension to imf (BASELINE-INCLUDE-BioPCM-INP.imf) and it should work.
Edit RunEPlus.bat to see why you need the imf file extension, this is what trips EPMacro.exe to run and create the combined input file.

if exist "%input_path%%~1.imf" copy "%input_path%%~1.imf" in.imf
if exist in.imf "%program_path%EPMacro"
if exist out.idf copy out.idf "%output_path%%~1.epmidf"
if exist audit.out copy audit.out "%output_path%%~1.epmdet"
if exist audit.out erase audit.out
if exist out.idf MOVE out.idf in.idf



On 5/13/2012 7:45 PM, CleanTech Analytics wrote:
And when trying without ! after each (I thought I found the issue was I was writing to IDD, but did not work)

Again to all who may know, any advise would be much appreciated. (one thing I am not sure of is if this has to be ran with command promp?) again many thanks

Program Version,EnergyPlus-32-MP 7.1.0.009+, 5/13/2012 4:39 PM,IDD_Version 7.1.0.009+
   ************* IP: IDF Line~15 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\M27.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~16 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\M51.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~17 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\M91.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~18 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\M182.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~19 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\Q21.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~20 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\Q23.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~21 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\Q25.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* IP: IDF Line~22 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\Q27.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* Beginning Zone Sizing Calculations
   ************* Testing Individual Branch Integrity
   ************* All Branches passed integrity testing
   ************* Testing Individual Supply Air Path Integrity
   ************* All Supply Air Paths passed integrity testing
   ************* Testing Individual Return Air Path Integrity
   ************* All Return Air Paths passed integrity testing
   ************* No node connection errors were found.
   ************* Beginning Simulation
   ************* Simulation Error Summary *************
   ************* EnergyPlus Warmup Error Summary. During Warmup: 0 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
   ************* EnergyPlus Sizing Error Summary. During Sizing: 0 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
   ************* EnergyPlus Completed Successfully-- 0 Warning; 8 Severe Errors; Elapsed Time=00hr 03min 26.77sec

Jeremiah D. Crossett
CleanTech Analytics
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www.cleantechanalytics.com


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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM, CleanTech Analytics < jeremiah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I changed the file extension to .inp, and followed what seemed to make since in the documentation but still got the error below when runing the attached files. Any advise as to what I am doing wrong?

Many thanks-

Program Version,EnergyPlus-32-MP 7.1.0.009+, 5/13/2012 4:17 PM,IDD_Version 7.1.0.009+
   ************* IP: IDF Line~15 ##include C:\Users\Jeremiah\Desktop\INP-EPMACRO\M27.inp
   ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
   ************* Beginning Zone Sizing Calculations
   ************* Testing Individual Branch Integrity
   ************* All Branches passed integrity testing
   ************* Testing Individual Supply Air Path Integrity
   ************* All Supply Air Paths passed integrity testing
   ************* Testing Individual Return Air Path Integrity
   ************* All Return Air Paths passed integrity testing
   ************* No node connection errors were found.
   ************* Beginning Simulation
   ************* Simulation Error Summary *************
   ************* EnergyPlus Warmup Error Summary. During Warmup: 0 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
   ************* EnergyPlus Sizing Error Summary. During Sizing: 0 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
   ************* EnergyPlus Completed Successfully-- 0 Warning; 1 Severe Errors; Elapsed Time=00hr 03min 28.84sec

Jeremiah D. Crossett
CleanTech Analytics
503-688-8951
www.cleantechanalytics.com


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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM, CleanTech Analytics < jeremiah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks Linda, -- I had looked everywhere but in the auxiliary programs guide-



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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Linda Lawrie <linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

EP Macro is described in the Auxiliary Programs document.

If you are using EP-Launch, there is a "inc" that can be set and tested
in each subsequent simulation. (I believe there is a simple example
shown in the files area here).

The output files from EP-Macro are put as "epmidf" and "epmdet"
extensions -- usually in the output files area. It looks like there was
a previous set of messages about this -- I will catch up to them
tomorrow.

Linda


On 13.05.2012 16:46, CleanTech Analytics wrote:
> Jean,
> Thank you kindly for the advise;
>
> I have done as you advised, but I can not seem to find the output
> tables or csv files from the macro simulation.
> I have attached my files, could you please help me out and point me
> in
> the right direction to use the EP Macro funtonality? My use is to be
> able to add PCM's to Energy Plus files in JE+ runs. I have it working
> by using 8 IDF's, but would much rather use the IMF/EP Macro
> method..
>
> Questions: Should I use single file, or group with all IMF's? Should
> I
> click repeat simulation for IMF in the number (8) of IMF files?
>
> Many thanks
>
> ! File generated by DesignBuilder - 3.0.0.104 3/18/2012 - 9:46:52 PM
> ! Source file: C:UsersJeremiahDocumentsDesignBuilder DataASHRAE Room

> Study.dsb
> Version,
>     7.1;                     !- Version Identifier
>
> ##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sM27.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sM51.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sM91.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sM182.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sQ21.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sQ23.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sQ25.IMF
>
> !##include C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sQ27.IMF

>
> !-   ===========  ALL OBJECTS IN CLASS: SIMULATIONCONTROL
> ===========
>
> Program Version,EnergyPlus-32-MP 7.1.0.009+, 5/13/2012 3:39
> PM,IDD_Version 7.1.0.009+
>    ************* IP: IDF Line~15 ##include
> C:UsersJeremiahDesktopBioPCM IMF'sM27.IMF

>    ** Severe  ** , or ; expected on this line
>    ************* Beginning Zone Sizing Calculations
>    ************* Testing Individual Branch Integrity
>    ************* All Branches passed integrity testing
>    ************* Testing Individual Supply Air Path Integrity
>    ************* All Supply Air Paths passed integrity testing
>    ************* Testing Individual Return Air Path Integrity
>    ************* All Return Air Paths passed integrity testing
>    ************* No node connection errors were found.
>    ************* Beginning Simulation
>    ************* Simulation Error Summary *************
>    ************* EnergyPlus Warmup Error Summary. During Warmup: 0
> Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
>    ************* EnergyPlus Sizing Error Summary. During Sizing: 0
> Warning; 0 Severe Errors.
>    ************* EnergyPlus Completed Successfully-- 0 Warning; 1
> Severe Errors; Elapsed Time=00hr 03min 36.24sec
>
> _Jeremiah D. Crossett_
> _CleanTech Analytics_
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>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Jean marais wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>> And to illistrate...here is a bit of code epmacro i used to create
>> the CO2 part of my idf for the different zones to which it must be
>> applied.
>> I ran this sepperately (still using eplaunch and just exchanged the
>> include file for the CO2 for this one. It expands into the CO2 idf
>> that I then later included...if that makes sense. Unfortunately it
>> expands with a character that has to be manually removed with find
>> and replace. I can't remember what the character was...possibly a
>> '#' or a space?
>>
>> ##DEF CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES[mmZone]
>>
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> !EMS for Damper Control by CO2 Level
>> !*****THIS FILE IS USED TO GENERATE A FILE THAT HAS "" THAT NEED TO
>> BE REMOVED******!
>>
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> ! CC = CurrentCO2Concentration
>> ! CCSP = CurrentCO2SP
>> ! CDP = CurrentDamperPos
>> ! CO2SPUL = CO2_SP_Sensor UPPER LIMIT
>> ! CO2SPLL = CO2_SP_Sensor LOWER LIMIT
>> ! ODACO2SPUL = ODA CO2_SP_Sensor
>> ! ZDCS = ZDC_Sensor
>> ! ZDC = Zone_Damper_Changer
>> ! MDF = MINDAMPERFRACTION
>> ! CMM = CO2ModificationManager
>> ! CMMPr = CO2ModificationManager Program
>> ! CS = CO2_Sensor
>> ! DaLL = Damper Lower Limit
>>
>> EnergyManagementSystem:GlobalVariable,
>> #[mmZone // _CC] ,
>> #[mmZone // _CCSP ] ,
>> #[mmZone // _CDP ] ,
>> #[mmZone // _dDamper ] ,
>> #[mmZone // _dCO2 ] ,
>> #[mmZone // _MM ] ,
>> #[mmZone // _ODACO2SPULV ],
>> #[mmZone // _CO2SPULV ],
>> #[mmZone // _CO2SPLLV ],
>> #[mmZone // _DaLLV ]; !- Erl Variable 2 Name
>>
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Sensor,
>> #[mmZone // _CS] , ! Sensor Name...reporting temperature
>> mmZone ,! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Index Key Name
>> Output:Variable,*,Outdoor Dry Bulb,hourly; !- Zone Average [C]
>> Zone Air Carbon Dioxide Concentration ; ! Output:Variable or
>> Output:Meter Name
>>
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Sensor,
>> #[mmZone // _ODACO2SPUL] , ! Sensor Name...reporting temperature
>> Outdoor CO2 Schedule , ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Index Key
>> Name Zone/Sys Thermostat Cooling Setpoint Output:Variable,*,Zone/Sys
>> Thermostat Cooling Setpoint,hourly; !- Zone Average [C]
>> Schedule Value ; ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Name
>>
>> !Setpoint Value
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Sensor,
>> #[mmZone // _CO2SPLL] , ! Sensor Name...reporting schedule
>> properties
>> CO2SPLL , ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Index Key Name Zone/Sys
>> Thermostat Cooling Setpoint Output:Variable,*,Zone/Sys Thermostat
>> Cooling Setpoint,hourly; !- Zone Average [C]
>> Schedule Value ; ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Name
>>
>> !Setpoint Value
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Sensor,
>> #[mmZone // _CO2SPUL] , ! Sensor Name...reporting schedule
>> properties
>> CO2SPUL , ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Index Key Name Zone/Sys
>> Thermostat Cooling Setpoint Output:Variable,*,Zone/Sys Thermostat
>> Cooling Setpoint,hourly; !- Zone Average [C]
>> Schedule Value ; ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Name
>>
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Sensor,
>> #[mmZone // _DaLL] , !- Name
>> DaLL , ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Index Key Name...in this
>> case !-EnergyManagementSystem:Actuator Available,COOLING SP
>> SCH,Schedule:Compact,Schedule Value,[ ]
>> Schedule Value ;!Damper Lower Limit Schedule
>>
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Sensor,
>> #[mmZone // _ZDCS] , !- Name
>> mmZone MDF , ! Output:Variable or Output:Meter Index Key Name...in
>> this case !-EnergyManagementSystem:Actuator Available,COOLING SP
>> SCH,Schedule:Compact,Schedule Value,[ ]
>> Schedule Value ;!VAV Terminal Damper Position ; ! Output:Variable
>> or Output:Meter Name
>>
>> ! , Component Unique Name, Component Type, Control Type, Units

>> !EnergyManagementSystem:Actuator
>> Available,MDF,Schedule:Compact,Schedule Value,[ ]
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Actuator,
>> #[mmZone // _ZDC] , !- Name
>> mmZone MDF , !- Actuated Component Unique Name...in this case
>> !-EnergyManagementSystem:Actuator Available,COOLING SP
>> SCH,Schedule:Compact,Schedule Value,[ ]
>> Schedule:Compact, !- Actuated Component Type
>> Schedule Value ; !- Actuated Component Control Type
>>
>> !***Program Calling Proceedure***
>> EnergyManagementSystem:ProgramCallingManager,
>> #[mmZone // _CMM] , ! Name
>> AfterPredictorAfterHVACManagers,!BeginTimestepBeforePredictor , !
>> EnergyPlus Model Calling Point
>> #[mmZone // _CMMPr] ; ! Program 1 Name
>>
>> !***Main Program***
>> !******************
>> EnergyManagementSystem:Program,
>> #[mmZone // _CMMPr] , ! Program 1 Name
>> SET #[mmZone // _ODACO2SPULV ] = #[mmZone // _ODACO2SPUL],
>> SET #[mmZone // _CO2SPULV ] = #[mmZone // _CO2SPUL],
>> SET #[mmZone // _CO2SPLLV ] = #[mmZone // _CO2SPLL],
>> SET #[mmZone // _DaLLV ] = #[mmZone // _DaLL] ,
>> SET #[mmZone // _CC] = #[mmZone // _CS] ,
>> SET #[mmZone // _CDP] = #[mmZone // _ZDCS] ,
>> SET #[mmZone // _dDamper ] = (1 - #[mmZone // _DaLLV ]), !max min
>> damper positions
>> SET #[mmZone // _dCO2 ] = #[mmZone // _CO2SPULV] - #[mmZone //
>> _CO2SPLLV] , !max min CO2 levels, i.e. SP and ODA CO2
>> SET #[mmZone // _MM ] = 1 - (#[mmZone // _dDamper ] / #[mmZone //
>> _dCO2 ] * #[mmZone // _CO2SPULV] ) ,
>>
>> IF (#[mmZone // _CC] >= #[mmZone // _CO2SPLLV ] ) && (#[mmZone //
>> _CC] #[mmZone // _CO2SPULV ] ,
>> SET #[mmZone // _ZDC] = 1 ,
>> ENDIF;
>>
>> !***End Main Program***
>> !**********************
>> ##EndDEF
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [U12]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PE00WN]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PE00WS]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PE00WW]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PE0Z02W]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PE03W]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [HE00]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [HE0Z03]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PavN]
>> CO2_EMS_FOR_ZONES [PavS]
>>
>> !*******************************************DEFINE DAMPER SCHEDULES
>> FOR ZONES*****************************
>> ##def DAMPER_SCH_ZONES[mmZone]
>>
>> Schedule:Compact,
>> mmZone MDF,
>> Fraction,
>> Through: 12/31,
>> For: AllDays,
>> Until: 05:00, 0.3,!0,
>> Until: 23:00, 0.7,
>> Until: 24:00, 0.3;
>>
>> ##EndDef
>>
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [U12]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PE00WN]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PE00WS]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PE00WW]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PE0Z02W]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PE03W]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [HE00]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [HE0Z03]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PavN]
>> DAMPER_SCH_ZONES [PavS]
>> !*******************************************END DEFINE DAMPER
>> SCHEDULES FOR ZONES **********************
>
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